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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:03 pm 
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Hello Fellows!

I have lots of Ross Jeffries material in my PC and I'm trying to apply his method but it's not easy because it's not like being in his seminar and also English is not my first language so I need to translate his stuff.

There are different kinds of seduction schools and the common action to all of them is the Opener.
So, when I want to pick up a girl, I start with an Opener, and after that I'm trying to keep the conversation live in order to insert a pattern. I tried it only a several times and I've got a phone number once. I know that I'm doing things wrong so I'm here to get a tech support.

What should I do after I delivered a pattern? Should I use more than one pattern?
I'd like to get an example for a whole ss process.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Well an example of the whole process is too long for me to write. for me I dont think so much about routines as I do making it a natural interaction. I get the impression you think you can rely solely on patterns and have success...not true, you need the social skills for the in-between times.

After you deliver a pattern you gauge by her reaction on whether or not she is keen, you can do more if you like but the whole point of patterns and that stuff is to get her comfortable and attracted, so you can act normal if this makes sense

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:52 pm 
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i also get the feeling you think one pattern will get you pretty much laid. i used to think this way too. they tell you that when they market this stuff but thats not quite how it works. basically, a pattern works by describing what its like to experience a specific emotion in great detail, to get her to feel that emotion. but when your doing this you want it to be like a natural conversation, not a canned pattern. or she wont feel comfortable enough to get in an emotional state. so you want it to be like a conversation. where both you and her are talking and your both comfortable about it. let me give you an example i did on my friend. the senario was that the boyfriend of my friend brooke had passed away recently and I was explaining how i feel about it to my other friend ian. i said "i just feel sorry for brooke, idk, do you care if i explain this to you" Him: "go for it", Me: "Ok, have you ever began to CONNECT WITH A PERSONS FEELINGS?" him: "ya" me: "well its like that. I can just, BEGIN TO CONNECT WITH BROOKE, like theres this special bond between me and her and that bond is so strong that i can FEEL WHAT SHE IS FEELING. " Him: "ya i know what you mean, its like when you care for someone, you are so connected to them that you can imagine how they feel" me: "Ya exactly, i can just FEEL the INTINSE SORROW that she feels almost, like theres a piece of me missing, and i know ill never be the same again, because that special person who i care about is gone, forever. and its like they took a part of my heart with them. and those feelings of sorrow begin to intensify, and i try to hold back tears from my eyes, but those feelings just keep getting stronger until i cant fight it anymore."

Now, this wasnt speed seduction, i was just testing and seeing if i could get my friend to feel what i felt. but a speed seduction pattern works the same way. anyway. you cant just deliver a whole pattern and you be the only one talking. let her talk, make it seem natural. look for some examples of speed seduction on youtube.


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