Hey all, I really need some help on my game, specifically my night game at bars and clubs.

Problem is I really just don't know how to approach girls in these settings.

At bars, it seems girls are in groups and just impenetrable, not to mention I don't really have an opener.

At clubs I don't really know how to get with a girl. The musics loud and once again I don't really know what to say or do.

Could I get some advice.

Some background information.
I'm a young guy in college and specifically going for younger girls in these settings. I don't think it's a matter of approach anxiety (especially when I'm a few deep), it's more of a matter that I just don't know what to say or do. I would also consider myself an attractive guy yet I've never really been that good with girls.

like you said... music is loud... college night game is Just SIMPLE. Don't need for much talking... lots of body rocking and just dancing, having fun.... i kclose my T's right away. its 2 ez

edit: last thing you wanna do is TALK or try to GAME.. cut the bullshit. Get down to business.... k thanks

im also kind of confused by your question.. you said College NIght game and then you mention Bars and nightclubs ? My answer to your question was in terms of college parties / college night game

"Hey you girls have an awesome group dynamic going on here, hi I'm....." or I've done "excuse me, I'm going to borrow your friend for a second" (and pull the one you like aside by her hand and open her). Theres so much you can do, just have to man up. Its a trial and error process and takes time to get good at.

I'm kind of confused as to what your trying to tell me? I've tried just "body rocking and dancing" but that doesn't work because very rarely do girls initiate contact when doing this.

Also do bars and clubs not apply to college night game? I understand college parties are also included but I don't see why bars and clubs wouldn't be included. The bars and clubs I go to are generally filled with my age range and are college students.

noway dude. you gotta take the whole scenery into account. a college house party and a club or bar are completely different worlds. While your game might work well in both places, the caliber of people you face in bars and night clubs are way different and thus requires different gaming.

how to initiate contact with the girL? Well, YOU have to initiate the contact not the girl. If you don't know how to initiate contact , then I cannot help you.
And I even said start off with body rocking...look it up if you don't know what that is.

your goal is to ESCALATE. i really dont know why you are confused

I have the same problem as OP here. How do I open up and escalate? It feels like between the crowdedness and the loud music that it's impossible to try to open up or talk to anyone, be it on the dance floor or by the bar.

failure will tell you. You just go out and do it and fail. keep FAILING. its good. You will find your answer.

You're right and inside I know you're right yet I feel so spineless. I can't stay spineless forever though. This Friday I will shoot for 10 attempts at attempting an interaction. If i get rejected, then so be it. I've had enough of being too scared to attempt anything on fear of backlash.

sounds good... how about that... i wanna hear your BEST REJECTION story.. repost it here so we can all learn from it

Make it fun. Can't wait to hear all about it

EDIT: and by the way don't go with the mindset of ANY outcome. Don't try to Nclose. Numbers dont mean anything. Rather try to make HER day, build connection or even sexual chemistry. That should be your mindset

I like your attitude Nixxor. You cut straight to the point. See my thing, Im a semi-pro salsa dancer, and I have More than enough game making a girl have fun and dancing my ass off while DHV by pre-selection with other girls asking me to dance.... however.... I dont know how to keep the game flowing. Then again, I just got into this community about 2 weeks ago, so all these terms and concepts are mad new to me.

In a salsa scene, I KILL IT, in a hiphop/college/reggaeton/street scene club, im in the same boat as these other AFC's (me included) i just dont know how to open a set of girls sitting on the dance floor dancing with NO GUYS or random guys just having come up... i just cant find it in me to just plant my crotch on her ass to booty dance..... or pulling em away.... I dont understand how a girl would just walk off with a guy who just grabbed her hand and started pulling her away from her friends.....

Overall, i am not scared to go up and talk to them, i JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO OPEN and continue on to A2&A3!!!!

Same problem too however i have gotten a decent amount of girls from just walking up and saying hey i think your really cute come dance with me and grabbing her hand and start walking away so she needs to follow. Basically if you want hookups in college go to the parties but do day game / make alot of friends if you want a relationship. College is a great place to drop a bunch of hooks, meet alot of girls even if just as friends because when you walk into a house party and you know alot of people it gives you 100X more value.

Would just like to say I went hard tonight and pretty happy with the performance! Except I used a line all night I can't always use... I was with one of my nerdier friends and the whole night I would try and hook him up with girls and it worked for me because I'm much better looking than him.

Whats your advice for a line with a wingman with much better game?

Dude, did you throw your wing under the bus?! It sounds to me like you took a guy who is less physically attractive and used him as your prop for the night!

As far as your question goes, learn from the wing with better game. That's what it's all about!

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Mate, check my post on openers. Learn to boost your voice in clubs/bars or choose different venues if you're having difficulty talking.

Game is generally vocal + body language - I really do back Mystery's 'the dance floor is a trap' theory in this case unless you know your shit.

Having said that, I've opened with my middle finger and stealing drinks a lot from chicks. Girls will associate that with dominant, rather than supplicating behavior.

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AFC turning into a PUA.

Hey fellow college Student here.
First of all, What should an opener accomplish?
Many PUAs say The lone job of an opener is to start a conversation with a girl. That is true to some extend, but i believe a good opener does several jobs.

A good opener starts a conversation with a girl in a way that differentiates you from most of the other guys who have approached her in the past.

A good opener allows you to start a conversation with a woman in that skips over the normal, boring small talk that kills most approaches pretty quickly.

So for dancefloor game i'd try something like this :
‘Hey, you’re giving off an incredible vibe, and I had to come over here and see what you’re deal was’ or a simple "What's your deal?" followed by a smile.

Note : Dont be too outcome dependend. Just go live the moment, rejection is just another learning curve.

happy Gaming Amigo!!