Hey guys!I've said many many times on this forum that you don't need kino escalation to seduce a woman I have also said here many times that physical escalation pretty much depends on where are you from and that you have to be aware of the cultural differences before trying kino.

Here you have an interview with Kezia Noble, for those of you who don't know who she is well... she's only the World's leading female PUA coach in the world AND in case you are thinking " A woman can't/shouldn't teach this" I asked her that. I asked her about physical escalation and well... she's agree with me.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FCGame1?feature=guide

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She is right about some men feeling resentment towards women.

That resentment turns into hate , hate into energy and energy into success.

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On a first encounter u r right, but success is higher with kino.

Simply your obsession of lack of kino, just sounds like fear, u r looking for validation from a female coach, guru whatever. Your only reason to promote lack of kino, is to give comfort to guys who are scared of kino rejection.

I've seen ur link. Do not be hurt but u look like a glorified beta male. She is more alpha than u r. Ur tone, stature is weak looking.

However I do not comment on your success rate. Purely commenting on a first impression.

U probably respect her or fancy her too much to have acted normal. Its a shame u probably would not have allowed her to portray superior body language in a club.

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I was interviewing her... that's all I'm gonna say AND I had never seen Kezia so relaxed on any interview before. Have you?She was even making jokes and laughing if you live in England you know how rare that is.
If you think I'm a beta male - I'm still not sure what that means- fine, I respect your opinion. I don't have an obsession of lack of kino, like I/she said I'm Spanish kino is something that comes natural to me, my "problem" is when I see guys who are not naturally warm making a BIG BIG deal of this when it's not. Have you seen guys doing kino in clubs? I've seen them, guys who are "cold" trying kino... it looks strange, things like touching her elbow every 6 seconds because they read it on a forum or some PUA who was not a very touchy person told them to.

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No offence wish u success.

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Meet and Wing.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
[link]

The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
[link]

My verbal game isn't great. I would be nowhere without kino.

I think kino is so underrated. I don't understand why it works, it just does.

That's my point! Stick to the things that you are good at if you are good at kino then DO IT. Right? Kino is something that comes natural for you?

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Ozzie from RSD, hardcore pua, wrote a book called 'physical game', as he thought it was so important yet still a little neglected in the community. Your argument of only do kino if you are good at kino and it comes naturally is weak. If you applied that logic to all you would get nowhere, its very damaging mmmmmmmmm talking to girls does not come naturally to me thus i will stop and not do it.

The guys who you have seen performing bad kino may not be good at it yet. When you first try on new behaviors they will not fit right away and come off incongruent, but with practice you will become comfortable with them and congruent.

(It's been said many times before (probably) but a women teaching pick up! I don't mean she can't teach it at all, obviously she has a good idea of the fundamentals (KJ) and can probably spot common mistakes in guys but she can not compare to a male pick up coach in any way, for so many reasons, mainly she can't have full understanding as she can't do it, how could she teach inner game? calibration? it's just silly)

You are wrong , it may seem incredible to a virgin that you can pull women from the nightclub to your house without even touching them.

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I do not doubt you can.

However, your game/style is very specilsed, you cannot eliminate the need for kino based on your style, which is aimed at a very specific situation.

To bed a woman, you need escalation. Kino is a type of escalation, but it is not necessary.

You can just stick with the other sexual escalation/tension type moves:
Moving closer
Deep Eye contact
Sexual framing
Longer pauses between your words
Deepen voice
The list goes on.

Like I said in the other thread about kino (especially in night game):

Sure, you do not NEED kino, but it helps TREMENDOUSLY.
Its like saying you don't NEED to be physically strong to play football or basketball.

Of course if you are that type of person who does kino very unnatural, just because you read it on forums then yes, you may not use it. But if you are a guy who can naturally deliver her some kino it would be plain stupid to not do that. Good kino adds a lot to the bottom line and its a fact.

What I'm saying is that you don't need to touch her to engage into a more sexual interaction, meaning talking about sex or kissing.. etc. Do you know what I mean? I've done it lots of time - at night, of course- of being with a girl and not touching her and I mean basically not touching her until I kiss her. You can do that it just takes a lot of practice but as I always say it's something that either goes with your personality or it doesn't.
About kino at day, I just hate it seriously when I see guys hugging girls in the street it just look so weird. Do you think by touching her had or hugging her she's going to sleep with you? You don't need to touch a woman to prover that you feel sexually attracted to her.

I'm not a big fan of learning how to kino a girl by reading a book I think that leads to guys taking too seriously about what they read and you end up seeing guys in clubs touchin girl¡s elbows every 6 secods because they are "kino escalating"

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Forgot about this thread.

Kino isn't something I naturally did because I was shy. But since PUA I do it all the time, it's now natural to me. There are other ways to build comfort and sexual tension/attraction but kino does it all so well, it's #1 at doing it imo.

Preach it, brother!

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