POF, here's a link to my profile incase some of you are wondering if that had any effect, i doubt it though because it was so fast paced.
edit: Can't post links yet I suppose. PM me if you are curious about it


I opened 47 girls since friday, with the opener, and of those 47, I got direct replies from 38. I honestly haven't had time to pursue them all the way I would want to - some of them I haven't even tried to build a rapport with after they were hooked.

So far in short 47 messages, 38 responses, 12 number closes, 2 meets, 1 full kiss close, and one all weekend date kinda thing scheduled.

I ended up approaching an HB9 in chat - guys she is nearly model hot, european (bosnian) with legs to die for, 3.5 inches taller than me - and that at first was a "dealbreaker" shit test - but now she's coming to spend next weekend with me (she lives in DC, I'm in south VA)

In the initial opener ( I lost it because they dont have chat logs ) She acted very relieved and almost thankful toward me for calling her adorable.

after the opener:

Me: No really, don't worry you're cute, but beauty is common, what's special about you?
HB: I don't know
hb: what do you want to know?
me: Give me three reasons besides your looks that I would want to get to know you better
hb: I'm smart
hb: I have a good heart
hb: I'm cute
me: damn girl you just aren't the smartest crayon in the box are ya? I said besides your looks! give me one more.
hb: OMG you are so full of yourself, BYEEE!!!

Now most guys would call this a blow out. Not me. I've been testing something recently. I call it seeding and I'm not sure if anyone else does it. I am trying to develop comfort online though actually pissing a girl off, and pulling her back in.

Im talking really actually making her mad. This girl closed the window on me. That's like walking away at a bar or hanging up on the phone right. End of set?

No. Remember when I did the number routine? Well I asked her to pick a number between 1-4 but I never touched that again. I made sure she committed her number to memory but never said anything else about it. I knew I was going to make her close the window.

Here is how I reopened (Immediately) AND she even appologised that her internet connection was the cause of her closing the window.

Any theory on this?

jbtArt4/6/2012 9:01:54 PM
Your number was 3.

Your sense of humor also is a bit off calibration for this site,
It's hard to hear the tone of my voice or see body language in
this chat. Have a sense of humor

Whats your name?

4/6/2012 9:03:16 PM
haha, i was in doubt between 2 and 3. But, I still think you are full of yourself. Ilhana


jbtArt4/6/2012 9:07:52 PM
Ilhana, let's start over. You'll lighten up some and I'll forgive
you for calling me full of myself, and we can have a good
conversation. What's your number? I'm not trying to get called a
prick because I made a joke in a text box and you couldn't tell I
was laughing

4/6/2012 9:08:44 PM
Sorry my internet connection sucks. And i am not uptight ive just had a bad day


jbtArt4/6/2012 9:10:20 PM
Give me your number so I can show you something really cool. I'm
pretty awesome so talking to me on the phone will totally make
your day turn around.(That was me poking you about callin me full
of myself)

4/6/2012 9:11:20 PM
what are you going to show me? Your penis? No thanks !


jbtArt4/6/2012 9:15:23 PM
Damn girl, I don't know what kind of guys you normally talk to but
maybe we need to get you tested! I'm not that easy! This shit aint
free!

And I can't tell you what it is I have to show you. It's a test
kind of a thing

4/6/2012 9:17:02 PM
hahahah omg !! fine go ahead test me. I might have a bipolar you never know. xxx.xxx.xxxx(Number)


jbtArt4/6/2012 9:32:35 PM
Well, whenever I try to call you, it goes strait to voice mail.
That's so rude of you!

4/6/2012 9:33:34 PM
haha yeah right. My phone works perfectly fine. Its you, because you are NOT calling. Nevermind.


Notice here at the end, I actually didn't call her. I accused her of being the problem, and why I wasn't able to reach her, and called her rude because of it. She gets playful here, and tries to act like she doesn't care at all, but the fact is (i figured this out after I got on the phone with her) that she was really excited to talk to me.

I ended up having a 5 hour conversation with this girl - and I'm sure that was probably a mistake, but I honestly was having fun the entire time. She loves sinatra, axel rose, and salvador dali + totally gave me huge sex IoIs

I told her we would be BFFs, and that she can come see me and stay here overnight since it's so far away. After all I have a king size bed, and since we are BFFs we can sleep in the same bed and it's no big deal, we just have to wear pajamas.
pretty much told me she would sleep naked in bed next to me, she hates pajamas, but then played it off by saying she wouldn't shave so it wouldn't be attractive and therefor we wouldn't do anything.

I mean, hell of an IoI right? I think I could have F-closed this girl if she was nearby no problem. I can update on her if you want.

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Looks like you've gotten your pattern down to a T. Your reopener is perfect. Most guys email girls and sound needy. GUYS girls hate dudes that are needy. They like the independent ALPHA MALE. So if she does not respond to you move on to the next girl and email her back like in a couple of days or weeks,.

These are my steps, I've had tons of emails guys asking me to teach them, or they would pay me if I taught them. Here is the deal guys, I just do this as a hobby. My life is really busy, like all of you guys I'm just trying to make it to the next level. Like my dating life I'm selective in the guys I want to help. If you're a genuine guy that is in it 110% I will help you.

1. Message a girl with an opener.

2. If she respond. Try to think of something clever and I take my time. I will scan through her profile to find something I can use to open up her emotions.

3.If she laughs at what I have to say.( I have one foot in the door)

4. Tease or Neg her a bit maybe once.

4. I then proceed to take the attention away. This is what I normally tell her. " Hey check it out obviously you love to laugh and have fun, but I'm going to friendzone you"
( this is the most critical stage of getting her number) You see how I said LOVE? This is a strong word that most women will react to, even though she doesn't know it. The second thing is I friendzoned her. This is my way of rejecting her (this says hey I'm the prize, and you're not good enough for me)

5. This is where the tables are normally turned. Now she feels inadequate, for a woman that's a pretty harsh feeling. She will start thinking or she will let her guard down and say to herself " Hey this guy is harmless" or : "I will prove to this guy I'm good enough"

6. This is where I go hey we should exchange numbers and I will show you something pretty amazing ( I do the cube to her on the phone) or some other mind games. If she denies your number request, tell her you'll text her instead. Most often than not she will say ok.

7. I call her but I take my time or I text her and take my time.

I will give credit where credit is do.
Ok these methods I've built through studying guys like Mystery, Ross Jefferies, Paul Janka, Neil Strauss.

I've actually sarged with a guy on here when I was in Virginia names Nacho. Yes I am real and not a myth.

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I just started PUA about 2 weeks ago. recovering AFC here I guess. What's the cube? let me know

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9H7o1_8nSY

this is the cube works like a charm, opens up a lot of doors for you

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Thanks! checkin it out now

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I followed your blueprint... And when it came to the "i can tell you love to laugh and have fun"........she replied "its okay..I completely understand!"


kinda stumped me haha...seeing how the beginning of the convo was going, i was looking forward to her being more challenging, in a different way lol

just continue talking to her and when you feel the moments right pop the question

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Trying this framework now. Hopefully I don't mess up the Cube. Will let you know how it works. Thanks a ton DV!