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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:04 am 
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Okay here is the situation. HB9 in my college just broke up with her boyfriend she has been for a year. I started gaming her, got her number at a party we went to together, could do anything at the party because it was a day after she broke up with her bf plus she was moaning about how all the lads are after her already so i thought it was a good option (then again maybe i was wrong). Basically i gamed her in real life and text and facebook for bit. Now its the easter holiday so its just been over text and facebook. She has been giving me loads of IOIs so i decided to go to day 2.
Me: i want to see the photo (we were talking about a photo she had)

HB9:noo ill just show you my ipod sometime

ME:ye but it will be ages untill the next time i see you

HB9:owww ill miss you too much if i have to wait till then

ME:haha lets meet on monday then

HB9:hehe ill check my diary

Then she said she doesnt know what she is doing yet. So i asked her on saturday she still said "honestly not sure yet " . Asked her again on sunday and she said she has to revise. So i am confused because revision is not exactly a planned event, she can revise any other time. So i am guessing she doesnt want to meet. Now i am not sure because she has given me loads of IOIs. Is she just messing with me because she does have a lot of guys after her? Or have I been friendzoned? Or am I just being an idiot? Need help. Thanks guys


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:43 am 
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I feel when she told you she already has so many lads onto her, you could have regained frame control by negging her a bit to break her illusion of miss popular. This would have brought you back in the frame as the prize.

Then, when you know that it has been long (due to easter holidays) time when you met last time. I would have sent some ping text to caliberate her state in our dynamics (coz if she does not reply back then also you dont lose anything).
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ME:ye but it will be ages untill the next time i see you
This is wrong because you come off as needy of her attention. Dont do that until you are sure of attraction in-between.
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Then she said she doesnt know what she is doing yet. So i asked her on saturday she still said "honestly not sure yet " . Asked her again on sunday and she said she has to revise.
This was your mistake...!!
just wait for her to respond. If she does not reply, freeeze out a little, to let her wonder, why her no-response didnot bother you. You must have lot of social proof and abundance to not care if she refuses an outing.
And when she does not respond even then, send her ping text and dont bring the topic up until she does. Coz, that will show that you are different than other AFCs and have other options too. If she feels your desperation, its a total seduction-killer.
every time you dont recieve any response for any ping text or normal text, double your freeze out time. Normally, she would respond positive in your 2nd or 3rd ping text after this pattern of freeze outs.

And my opinion is that you have not been friend zoned... its just that she feels that you would always be an option (whereas you should make her feel you are the prize) which decreased your value in her eyes.

Just need to do some damage-repairs. Not a difficult game to turn around if you play by the rules.

-- Jack
Patience and caliberation are the keys to seduction


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:38 am 
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Me: i want to see the photo (we were talking about a photo she had)

HB9:noo ill just show you my ipod sometime

ME:ye but it will be ages untill the next time i see you

HB9:owww ill miss you too much if i have to wait till then

ME:haha lets meet on monday then

HB9:hehe ill check my diary
Ahaha this girl is cute! She's showing IOIs.

Basically what happened that weekend was you saying "Hey I want to see you!" and she goes "Not now." so you come back immediately the next day saying "Wanna see me now??" and she goes "Nah... no thanks bro..."

So you fell into a trap. Fix it by texting her in two weeks. When you text her, be exciting, and have an exciting offer.

"Alright, you were the perfect girl to invite to this, get excited. So my friends and I found this club, supposedly the most fun, tons of lights, hot girls, good music. Should be a great time, you should come."


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:27 pm 
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I feel when she told you she already has so many lads onto her, you could have regained frame control by negging her a bit to break her illusion of miss popular. This would have brought you back in the frame as the prize.

Then, when you know that it has been long (due to easter holidays) time when you met last time. I would have sent some ping text to caliberate her state in our dynamics (coz if she does not reply back then also you dont lose anything).
Ye I did tease her about that for a bit. In responce she teases me about me getting her number.
The main reason I kept asking her what she is doing is because I was in this position before. I tried to day 2 another girl a week before and she said the same thing "I am not sure what I am doing yet" . So I didn't ask her about it until the day before, it came up in the conversation and she said "oh I made other plans, you didn't mention it so I thought you weren't interested anymore ". So I was trying not to fall into that hole again.
I am not too sure what to do now though. You said text her back in two weeks, I cant exactly do that because half of the time she texts me or says hi on Facebook first. If I don't reply she might think I am angry because of the date thing and I will look even more pathetic, plus we are back to college in a week so I will have to see her their anyway. On the other hand if I keep speaking to her it will look like I am not botherd because I just want to be friends ( I have been friendzoned before and I am trying to avoid it at all costs with this girl)
Btw Thanks guys I really apprieciate your help


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You said text her back in two weeks, I cant exactly do that because half of the time she texts me or says hi on Facebook first. If I don't reply she might think I am angry because of the date thing and I will look even more pathetic, plus we are back to college in a week so I will have to see her their anyway.
Good dilemma. If she's initiating contact, plus you'll start seeing her in person, it means she won't forget about you. Now all you have to do is make sure you don't slip into the friend zone.

If she talks to you on facebook or over text, say things like "We need to hang out! I've been seeing so many people but I haven't seen you at all!"

Use the word "date": "When you flaked on our date, I had to rearrange my whole schedule. Ended up going out with [male friend]. You wont believe the kind of shit that happened." [What?] "Haha dont worry about it. You should have been there."

When you see her in-person, that's a great time to make a date. When you see her, find a way to transition into going to lunch together, one on one. Even if you go with a group, that's also a good thing.

Walk to lunch holding hands, joking how cute you two are and how everyone else is jealous.

If you're with a group, be positive and nice to everyone. Be the life of the party. Talk to random people, enjoy yourself, and when this girl shows IOIs, touch her.


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Okay thanks, I will try to dial it down for a few days at least saying I have loads of stuff going on so I cant talk to her much. I am thinking maybe she started seeing someone else because as i said she does have a lot of guys after her and that's why she didnt go but I guess there is not much I can do about that so I will just keep gaming her and trying to get another shot.


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