First let me start by giving a big thanks to the PUA community. My life has gone from barely being worth living, to looking more like the script from a f-ing porno movie!

The thing I've noticed lately though, is that being a bit of a bully actually helps with a lot of girls. Let me share:

I used to be a competitive weightlifter. I tipped the scales at 300lbs and had a belly. I was strong as hell, but no girls would ever consider even kissing me.
Then I finished my education, become a successful businessman and earned a lot of cash. I bought a lot of steroids, growth hormones and started doing a lot of cardio in addition to my strength training. I also paid about $15 000 for various cosmetic surgeries. And I'm not ashamed of it, as it made me score with 20 girls in less than a year. I nailed 19 of them using erotic dating sites, so I still had little or no game.

I then went on vacation and met a really cute, petite blond who announced that she was "madly in love with me". She often gets told she looks a lot like Nicole Richie (Paris Hiltons slutty friend).
She was my girlfriend for about six months, and even lived with me for a month. The sex was awsome, and she was a nice girl, but I felt we had little in common.
I work out six days a week and she didn't work out at all. She probably added 15 pounds in the time we spent together also (not good).
Before breaking up with here I noticed something though:

If we were at a bar/club and someone bumped into me and I pushed back, she would clearly get turned on by it. Usually I wouldn't have minded some bumping, as drunk people have poor balance, so no they mean no disrespect if they fall into you. But as an experiment I would push back everytime someone bumped into me. Not hard or anything, just enough to show 'em who's boss. I felt like an idiot doing this, not to mention how foolish I felt wearing a tank top in the middle of winter (in Scandinavia). But it really turned her on.

I broke up with her a couple of weeks ago, and I've already banged a pair of chicks, including this adorable 18 year old cutie with silicone lips and long blond hair all the way down to her ass.
Yesterday I met a friend of mine at a local bar. He was there with two tall, hot brunettes. I noticed that the hottest of them was a chick that actually hit on me about a year earlier. She walked up behind me at a bar and started flirting wildly and squeezing my biceps (that's why I wear the tank top ).
I assumed that her friend (whom we will call brunette 2) was a similiar (simple) kind. I was right.
Brunette 2 would make out with both me and my friend, and I told her I could drive her and my friend home when the bar closed. I also wanted to flash my BMW 745.

We stopped at a gas station and my friend went out to buy some cigarettes for him and brunette 2. I noticed him giving some lip to some guys hanging out outside the gas station. Normally I wouldn't have given it a single thought, but I assumed that I could turn brunette 2 on by meddling, so I did.

I walked up to the the guy my friend was arguing with and asked him if he was a retard. We discussed the subject for a short while, before he himself suggested that he was a moron. I agreed with him and walked away. Brunette 2 got so horny by this she was practically dehydrating. Its so sad, and I really feel ashamed of myself, but it works....it's so sad.

Inside the gas station she was giving me plenty of IOIs, so I could just put my arm around her, pull her towards me and make out with her a lot. I complimented her a bit, and she quickly responded by commenting my abs, and touching me.
In the ride over to her place, I hit the pedal and drove the car in 200 km/h just to game her (she was the kind of girl who got turned on by that stuff).
She quickly started talking about how hot she tought I was, and how much she liked me and bla bla bla.
I calmly told her that I liked her too, that she was a beautiful and charming girl and that I hoped to meet her again someday. She then quickly invited me to a party at her place this Saturday and asked me if I wanted her phone number. Sure!

As it was about 5 o'clock int the morning, I didn't push for an f-close, I just number closed and made out with her a bit before dropping her off. Today I'm nailing the 18 year old blonde chick again. I also number closed a cute HB7 arab girl in a pool hall on Tuesday who is chatting with me on facebook now. Life is good.

I think I'm starting to understand why assholes gets girls. Chicks are wired to go for alpha males. I prefer to be a "nice alpha", the kind who is able to smile and keep eye contact with a girl without getting nervous; the alpha who makes funny comments and makes girls laugh, the alpha who can give a girl an appropriate amount of compliments without getting nervous about it and score with a lot of chicks because of this.
But some girls (the trashy ones) are obiously impressed with big muscles, boorish behaviour and badass cars. As long as I'm not hurting anyone, I guess being a bit of an asshole can help me score with more girls. I really wish it wasn't so, though.

What are your experience with this?

I just want to mention again that I don't like behaving boorishly. It's childish and immature, and I only do it (in a controlled fashion) if I want to nail a trashy girl. The really sad thing is that this behaviour also seems to work on "good" and educated girls too (like my ex-GF).

As I admitted in my first post, I don't have much game, so I'd love to get some input from more experienced PUAs.

I don't really give compliments or act like a gentlemen. But to me, alpha is being fun and friendly. Being mean isn't alpha imo because an alpha should be calm and in control of emotions. So what you described as a nice alpha, is just alpha in my eyes. Although as I said, I stay away from complimenting. I'm 19 so it doesn't really work for girls in my age frame.

But all that trashy girl stuff is stupid. Who wants a trash girl? But yeah they do guy for a bad guy types. I know a group of trashy guys and girls and they all bang everyone in their circle lol. But I know I'd probably get them with standard PUA techniques, just remembering to kino and escalate.

So badder boys and trashy girls do go together. But I'm sure you could get a trashy girl by using standard PUA techniques.

I dunnno, bro. I'm 30 and I score with some 18 year old girls from time to time. They all seem to love compliments, but they have to be presented in a certain manner. It has to be laid back and not needy. If a girl behaves well and gives IOIs I can reward her by saying she seems like a cute and charming girl, but without seeming overly eager.
If they're hot I want to nail them.

I use the cute & adorable thing, but I meant like I don't use compliments like "you're beautiful" or "you have perfect eyes" or something like that.

What have compliments do you find works?
Fair enough.

I think it has a lot to do with delivery.
As I said I have little game, and I'm a bit of a "one trick pony" using muscles and a big dick to attract trashy women on-line. It's not good, so I've decided to man the fuck up and start daygaming more.

This Tuesday I was in a pool hall with a buddy I haven't seen for a few years. I noticed some hot arab teenage girls shooting pools, and I negged them a bit when they screwed up (hitting the lamps over then table with their cues and adorable clumsy shit like that). After a while I walked over (after denying an offer to be winged by my buddy) and opened the set. First I just asked who was winning. "Aorable girl" said she was winning. "Sexy girl" was silent. Adorable girl screwed up and I negged her, telling her I found it hard to belive she could win playing like that.
I then kept on negging her a bit, then negging myself saying that all I'm good for in a pool hall is to be a smartass and act cool - I can't play for shit.

I then smiled, looke her in the eyes and said that I thought she was a real cute girl and asked her if she was single. I then casually took a sip of my coffee, in a laid-back kind of way. The trick is to not seem overly eager, I think.
She told me she was "finished with boys". I asked her if we had treated her so poorly, and she laughed and told me how awful boys in her own ethnic group were. I told her she shold stick to nice viking boys like me.
"If you want to go out and get a cup of coffee some day, I'd really like that. You seem like a charming and positive girl" I told her. She giggled and told me that she had lost her phone and had to borrow her little brothers phone.
"That's no good - I don't want his number, he's not the one I want to date", I told her..
She laughed and said she could add me as a friend on facebook. She tried searching me up, and I put my arm around her back and gave her light kino while helping her search for me. I then gave her a big hug and told her it was nice to meet her.
I'm chatting with her right now. I think she's 19.

I did more or less the same with the waitress after these two girls left. She was smiling so hard I thought she would pull a face muscle or something. Her IOIs could be seen through the entire room, unfortunelately she had a boyfriend. I gave her lots of compliments, but I did it with a bit of a "sly smile" and a laidback attitude, trying to deliever the compliments in a natural way with confidence and authority. Not like I was trying to kiss her ass (although I would't have minded biting that sweet thing).

" As long as I'm not hurting anyone, I guess being a bit of an asshole can help me score with more girls. I really wish it wasn't so, though. "

That's right. You're NOT hurting anyone.

And if you "wish it wasn't so", you still have a ton of work to do insofar as inner game.

Until you get that inherent flaw known as 'judgement' (based on someone else's beliefs') out of your psyche, you'll be hitting sticking points consistently, guaranteed.

'Wishing it wasn't so' means arguing with reality, practicing non-acceptance and essentially second-guessing the divine wisdom that created the Universe.

Some of us really enjoy seeing guys finally make that break-through they deserve, so do yourself a favor - Get rid of that stuff.

_________________
"For God's sake start seeing the opportunities where others only see 'disaster'."
www.petesapper.com

Yeah, you're right. But being a "semi-bully" in order to turn women on can go both ways. One day I might meet a martial artists who's half my size who beat the crap out of me. Who gets laid, then? Him or me?

I guess deep inside I like being a nice guy, even if I'm big and strong. But being cocky/arrogant and flashing my money/muscles whatever to attract chicks is just good fun.
Like you said, it's about inner game. I like to look myself in the mirror and say "you are an awsome, massive, ripped kick ass guy with tons of cash, a mean ass car and girls can't get enough of you. You only hang out with cool guys, go on awsome vacations to kick ass places and the world is yours". Getting into that mindset - and projecting it to girls- really helps.

It's true that some women like bullies and their brash behavior but for the most part most decent women like appropriateness of that behavior or at least that's what I've found.
What you've done isn't bullyish behavior at all. You reacted appropriately to somebody stumbling into you (accidentally or not). You asserted yourself correctly by giving them a push but you didn't clobber some drunk guy over nothing to impress everybody.

Bullyish behavior would be more like picking on somebody for no reason, beating on smaller and less equip people than you to impress, etc. just childish shit like that.

_________________


"You're forgetting one very important element. We're not supposed to be that good."

Agree with Demi-God. You didn't do anything out of line at all. Bullys are wanna-be alphas who go looking for trouble because they are wussies at heart and always feel like they have something to prove (mainly because they're always judging themselves and live with a voice in their head that torments them 24/7).

Nothing wrong with going after (and getting) what you're worth.

Best of luck. I love seeing dudes succeed who had the balls to recognize they could stand to improve themselves, and then put in the hard graft to make it happen.

May sound judgmental, but in my book that makes them better than the 97% who are too weak or don't value themselves enough to even bother.

_________________
"For God's sake start seeing the opportunities where others only see 'disaster'."
www.petesapper.com

Yeah, I think you're right. Being a bit "territorial" and having a zero BS policy will probably signal "alpha dog" pretty clearly. Girls dig that. Good advice!

Well good for you. Glad someone's getting laid like a rock star.