Bro, this was a bad ass post. I started reading and could not stop. I was going to tell you, about a year ago I had this girl i was sleeping with (it was very secretive cuz she was like the boss of my boss) tell me that having sex with me was creating a lot of problems for her. so then she tells me that If she agrees to let me fuck her this one last time I should agree to never call her outside of work again. I said ok cuz all i wanted to do was stick my dick in her pussy right there and then and then deal with the rest later, anyway, she freaked the fuck out. "see you are a fucking looser, all you want to do is fuck me and don't care if it creates problems for me or about seeing me again. blah blah blah." She wanted me to say that I would have rather keep contact with her and forget the sex. and she also wanted to see how much power she had over me by depriving me of sex.
It was a shit test and I failed it. And so did you, but it was probably worth it.

congrats on getting laid bro

The way I would handle the shyte test is to tell her, "I didn't *actually* think you wouldn't want me to call/text afterwards" (which would be true).

This is an unusual and rather poignant post. It was depressing but I couldn't tear my eyes away and was rooting for poolpro. My takeaways are the following:

poolpro:

-work on your game, and years down the line, you can look back on this experience as a way of seeing how far you've come. 88 days + 30 sleepovers is an epic grind.

-as you go forth, remember that the girl treated you this way because SHE KNEW SHE COULD. Girls should always think that if they misbehave, you are willing to just walk away. It's easier said than done, I know, believe me.

-the best way to handle this girl is play it cool (not call/text, make her chase you a bit) and for her to see her with another (hotter, if possibly) girl. Her hindbrain is basically doing a crass calculation of 'I always have him in my back pocket when/if I want him'. If she's blown and screwed you, odds are very good she'd rather do so again than lose you to another girl.

She sounds like she might be genuinely crazy, so I'm not sure, but I'd still try it. Plus you should be trying to get other girls anyway, and you can use 'make this girl jealous' as additional motivation to combat approach anxiety with those other girls.

-if you do resume interacting with this girl, and the ex comes up, I would handle it by 1. do NOT ever act insecure or jealous, act like you would if the ex were her annoying disabled younger brother that she were always worried about 2. neg/tease her about it. In other words she should get a 'bad doggie' message but not one that makes you look insecure.



--to all of us:

-just last night I dealt with a girl almost this crazy (nice and sweet for several dates, then revealed her egomaniacal, moneygrubbing inner pedestal princess all of a sudden). This LR should serve as a reminder to all of us of how craven the female psyche is, how she will mercilessly string along a great guy like poolpro for months, throwing insane shyte tests, while driving 370x4 miles (!?) to pick up and drop off a faraway ex. Her evolutionary-psych algorithm is to cuckold, to extract all the time, attention, and resources she can out of one guy while bearing the spawn of another guy.

-remember that poolpro's story is NORMAL LIFE for many guys (and often it doesn't end in the lay at all, and it's with a less-hot girl). This is the divine gift that understanding PUAry and ev-psych is.

So did he make the right decision?
I think is he resisted and said he wanted to be "friends," then reverse psychology would grant him even more sex. He gave up future possible fucks for just one lay.

good stuff buddy, keep doing what you're doing she likes you for you

Personally I would've gone for the 1 fuck right then (the only reason I might've chosen the other option is if I suspect it was a trick and that I'd get the F close if I said I didn't care about then.) My reasoning is that:

- The girl sounds so batshit crazy, who knows whether he'd get the close later. He'd already spent 30 nights over at her place without it. I'd go for the fuck if for no other reason than 'time to try a new approach'.

- 99% of girls are more attached to a guy if they have already had sex. Evo psych 'I might be preggers' paternal abandonment and all that. I wouldn't expect a girl to live up to her 'we can't call or text later if we fuck' ultimatum. That does happen with after-the-fact anti-slut-defense (Mystery Method had a good bit on this and 'fool's mate' ) but since they already know each other well, it's not ONS territory.

-When a girl blatantly offers sex and gets rejected, it can make her feel like a slut and then she'll overcompensate with ASD / LMR next time.

However, I might've tried to act / frame it so that it didn't seem like I was playing into her either/or question. Like answering, "So be it" or "What will be will be," and gone for the fuck with body language. Definitely not saying something AFCish like "Okay, I'll choose the 1 fuck."

anything u had done by now, is in the state that i don't know... but what i think you should do is.. fuck first... must fuck first... then escalate after the fuck... but i didn't say you should not escalate during the early stage and mid stage.. but you must know that if you escalate during the after fucks, is important because that is where you put yourself in her lala land mind... but please do remember, i am just an acid, i'll cook you through if im not strong and burns you heart up deep when i'm at my best... i talk shit ...

That story was outrageous! I'm more inspired to never give up now. Whenever I get into the friend zone i forget about the lady.

All I gotta say is her behaviors seem kind of sketchy like shes hiding something at times. PRobably has to do with her ex or some other guys she either hooked up with in that 88 days or just hang out with a lot. Probably made her feel guilty. The crying at night thing is pretty sketchy since Im assuming she didnt explain it to you? And there were also some other weird things you mentioned. I assume it all has to do with emotional attachments to other guys and/or ASD. Who knows? Sounds like a bit of beta behavior for a girl. (not the type i like personally. A strong girl should not be playing these games.) And yeah the wishy washy behavior she has and her 'LJBF' at the end of the 88 days is partially her fault for playing games but mostly yours for friendzoning yourself when she was probably interested. You waited too long to escalate and prob got friendzoned to about 80% but she still found you attractive unconciously despite you sending AFC signalls all day erryday. i suggest just identifying the times when she plays games with you. like when she was giving you that 'one chance one choice' thing. you made her force a decision on you with bad outcomes (either be my friend or hook up once and seperate so its not awkward) she was obviously thinking like this because shes ASDing and shes a girl. but in honesty, theres a better solution which is be like FWB but shes ASDing so shes making these choices. If you had not been so slow you could have directed things. She was like forcing decisions on you all the time because she subconciously wanted something. And like you said later in the story she somehow ended up still your friend and you guys were still texting and stuff afterwards which shows you it doesnt have to be 'either or ' like she said. so yeah food for thought. good luck

_________________
Just trying to meet a 10.

This is totally a love story from the frustrated guys perspective. Congrats on the sex but I recommend moving on. Get one of the more experienced members to sarge with you and eventually you'll gain so much inner game that you could have her anytime you want her

nice story, very detailed.. keep up

Hey man,

Great story, I had a fantastic time reading it. I think that waiting that long is part of the fun ... to an extent. And yes, spending time in someone else's bed just to be with someone is a learning experience on it own.

AFC, very but I only can see you as progressing.

Pcz broski

_________________
Easy to dream a dream, but much harder to live it.
I learned working with the negatives could make for better pictures.

Congrats~!!!!!

ahahahahaha

The story was pretty epic. I'm glad you finally did it! I agree with most of the comments people have said above. However, I have to ask you, do you see yourself in a relationship with her?

Or are you down to fuck other women?

What's with all the hate?

Firstly, congrats man. I read the whole thing and as said previously, a very interesting report.

You obviously came across PUA stuff halfway through this ordeal so don't let the AFCs above get to you. You FC'd. That's 90% winning.

My Tips:

1. Don't get oneitis! Think about how long it's been - you're naturally going to just WANT her and ONLY her. You should turn that energy into inner game. Knowing you can nail a chick and be done with it. Turn it into ten. Get out, refine your game and start really getting somewhere!
2. Keep the girl! Send her a text and say "Your ex couldn't give it to you. You keep penetrating my mind, though. Friday 9pm. I'll pick you up."

Yes, a very messy move to FC. But the thing is, I don't need to pull it apart because I can tell from the way you wrote it you're learning and seeing the areas you really need to improve on.

Keep it up mate and hope to see more posts from you!