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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:22 am 
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When I finally do get the nerve to open a set, I run out of things to say. My mind goes blank and have nothing to talk about. Am I just a boring person? And I I'm not the most articulate and fluent speaker. Or do I just think slow? What should/can I do about this?

Also, I'm interested in this girl in one of my classes(I go to University of Texas at Austin by the way) but have yet to talk to her. I feel I could open her, but don't want to ruin my chances by having nothing and boring her. What to do?

I've just been introduced to the literature and feel that even though i have more knowledge, I am not any better off.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:16 am 
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Start reading up on interesting things, maybe find out what women your age like (look in their magazines).

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ya man. pick up some real good reading material. lots of it. use the search engine. there have been plenty of threads talking about good books. the game is way popular, TMM, NPL...there is endless stuff. by joining the PMZ you get access to a lot of really helpfull and pretty popular pieces of writting by a lot of PUG, so I would recomend that also, cuz it can save you the trouble of getting a book, though i will say it is no substitute. just open yourself up to what the community has to offer you. try to find a lair in your area, go sarge with some experienced guys. LEARN.

good luck,

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:59 am 
For the next time you blank, tell her you have to go and number close. Aside from that, definitely keep reading up and studying. Start with The Venusian Arts Handbook. It will give you the foundation. From there, since you're in college, read stuff by David Shade. He talks about how to be sexual with women. But, read the Handbook first. That one book will get your game on the right track. If you apply what you learn.

And, as PrettyBoy said, the PMZ itself has loads of great info that will help you in improving your game.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:06 pm 
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That is exactly my problem also

So I started reading Cosmopolitan forum to get the idea what female love to talk about


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:31 pm 
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I find lots of good things to say or talk about. The problem is I will
usually forget them or don't think about them while talking to women.

What has helped me a little is... I will create a cheat sheet. I review it
and fold it and put it in my pocket right before I go out. If I need to
refresh, I have the ability to go to the men's room or go outside and
review it.

I believe credit goes to Style on that one.

The Venusian Artist Handbook is a good place to start, IMHO.

As far as the girl in your class goes, I say just start talking to her. If
you feel you are running out of things to say, nothing is holding you
in the conversation. You can say you have to go, then leave. Or, if it
is in class, just get back to what you were working on. Then re-initiate
later.

The longer you wait to talk to her, the harder it will be.

Each experience you have talking to women will add to your overall skill.
See each interaction as a learning experience. You may eventually realize
how little those first few girls mean to you after you've spoken to 100s
or 1000s of others.


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I ussually tell a joke or 2 to lighten the mood if I feel it is going down hill.Nothing long or complex,a quick simple joke works awsome.Here is 1 that gets them everytime"3guys walk into a bar,4th guy ducks" if they dont get it (which amazingly some dont) they then laugh at themselves for it when they do get it.Then the mood is easier and if the joke is routine like for me while you tell the joke you can think of the next move.
I will admit telling jokes is pretty lame but alot of women respond to it.
Now if I could just get over my AA I could tell more of them,lol.
Good luck out there

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:21 pm 
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I've been trying to improve my conversation skills by just talking to people. Trying to talk to strangers nonchalantly and fluently is not very natural. I just wanna get good at speaking/sharing my mind with other people.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:34 pm 
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think about it for a sec, what do women go on an on about? THEMSELVES, all u need to do is ask them how their day is going, or what they have been up, when u get the jist of the things she is into just expand upon that, and its always a good idea to tell them about something funny that happened to you 8)


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Sounds like you're not that comfortable talking to people in general. That says "inner game". Confidence. That comes with life experience. I'm not a natural talker but I have learned to. Now I only have problems talking to attractive girls. Still learning that one.

I do the same thing though, and much as I would like to not need it, we both need material. Write it down. The cheat sheet is a great idea. Interesting stuff. Try www.fark.com I found this:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 262854.ece

Now there is a great story. Good luck!


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