That's right, I said call them OUT, not UP, lol.

Guys, we can't be afraid to call girls out on stuff that they do. They throw you a shit test? Fine. Call them out on it. They back out on plans, then you see them later? Fine. Call them out on it. Don't be afraid to. If you cower down, she takes control.

Yeah, forgive me Zip, I just told the guys to take control

I like it! I like calling girls out saying things like, "You're just trying to get into my pants!" or "I'm not jumping through your hoops." or "Stop playing the game with me, you'll loose!"

It helps and you are so right, call them out!

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Go for it.

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I think this depends on allot of factors. Personally in certain situations calling a girl out can be bad. It will only cause her to avoid you, and so you have to know when to call her out. If she blatantly is disrespectful then yes you say something, and don't put up with that. If she doesn't want to be around you or flakes on you then you ignore her totally. When you bump into her and the excuse pops into the conversation when she feels guilty you just tell her it was of little inconvenience and ignore her. When she behaves like she has respect for you then you treat her with it. If she acts like garbage then treat her like garbage. The funny thing about the freeze out is that it makes her feel she blew it with you. When she sees you with other girls that love you she will understand. I personally think if a girl is worth it she will demonstrate it buy her maturity. If shes an idiot with a pretty face I'm not going to waste my breath to guide her like a dog. Sometimes not saying anything at all can be extremely powerful with women.

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I'm with Wild One on this. I generally don't even care enough to call them out, but even if I did, it will most likely have a negative affect based on the underlined sentences. I think both Mystery and the authors of Magic Bullets say exactly the same thing. Just move on and act like it didn't bother you.

Oh, you guys are right on that point. I'm not saying show her that it bothers you. Not at all. I'm saying most guys would be afraid to call her on her bullshit, but you shouldn't be afraid to. Call her on it. Let her know it won't work on you.

I agree with Tripp here, as ive said before its worked for me plenty of times. Im sure the delivery is critical tho.

Its a matter of "picking your fights", and how you present it.

I usually will call a person out...girls too...if what they are saying/doing/asking me are stepping over the line, or even getting close to it.

Its human nature to push things to the limit, and we explore the limit of something by testing it. So you let someone get away with asking you to do something for them one day, the next day they take that first thing as givien and try to add to it...

So I nip this right away by calling them out on it and making them realize that its not realistic.

So far my favorite one went like this...

Target walks out of office, past the fridge and comes over to me...

Target: "Can you put some chicken nuggets in the microwave me and (boss's daughter) are hungry?"

ME: "You do realize you passed both the fridge and the microwave to come over here and listen to me say 'no', right?" (did this without even looking away from my computer)

Worked like a charm, she was throwing IOI's at me the rest of the day like she was a major league pitcher.

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Great point L.A. i totally get what you mean. It ties right into being an alpha male.

I used to always back in the day not call her out on things. Threw my journey to becoming a PUA i know know little things like this make a difference.

He must be getting laid if he talks to me like that,.

I usually call them out when they repeatedly doing the wrong things, that does not contribute to the advancement of the relationship. First few times I give them the benefit of a doubt, but after few giving I will call them out.

Of course they accept the calling out and come back with an excuse, then try to please me in some ways after that.

I do call them out on their shit, I was referring to when they flake. That's when I don't bother calling them out.

Ok, saq. Gotcha. Honestly though, even then I've called them out on it. I had one that was supposed to call me back or get with me or something, don't even remember how that was set up now, lol. But, the next time I saw her I did call her on it. I then told her that was her one shot.

Another instance was with my g/f that was part of a MLTR. She flaked and I called her out on it and told her if she was gonna keep doing that, then tell me now so we could just cut things off. She straightened right up.

Oh definitely, this is probably the most important thing you could do in becoming a true alphamale. Call people out on their bullshit! That's not to say start fights or arguments, in fact it can be done playfully and make for great DHV material! If it's your boss or something, obviously be a little tactful and bring it up in passing like it's no big deal...but don't let people get away with it, especially some girl you hardly know.

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I can see how calling a girl out will allow you to occupy your head with something that won't play games/fuck with you AND give some satisfication by telling her she fucked up her chances.

But although it does fuck with you emotionally(your state)...the end goal is getting the girl. So by stating an ultimatium, she may just say "fuck that" and u lose out on a lay/girl. I thought the goal of PUA was to be uneffected and hold frame at all costs.

By saying "you said you were going to call and you didn't, i don't deal/waste my time with flakey girls" it tells her
1. Get your act together or get lost(you gotta be tight with her or you don't want any relationship which is kind of anti social?)
2. What you did effected me enough to complain about it

Both which seem like a DLV. If you were really an alpha/pimp ..why bother bringing it up at all? Why not simply forget about her/freeze her out?

Instead..next time you see her..you don't stop to talk/smile/give her a hug/talk when she IMs you/etc.... give a quick wave and get moving like you have more important things than her. Is there a benefit to burning bridges? (even if in ur mind she's not worth it...but w/o verbally saying it to her..she might wisen up at some point).

Your thoughts?

Actually, by calling her out, it shows that not only does her shit not WORK on you, and you won't accept it, but that she better straighten up if she DOES want to have a chance with you, which actually DHV's you. Because it shows you have high enough value to not put up with her shit tests. You have plenty of other options out there. Even if you are going home alone tonight.

By doing this, you actually are holding the more dominant frame, because you're showing her that you're in contol and won't put up with her shit.

If she says fuck that and walks off, that's when you don't care and let her go. That shows again that you have other options.

And yes, by you calling her out, it does tell her to get her act together or get lost. But think about it. Do you really want to deal with a girl that doesn't keep her word, is full of drama, is immature, or anything else that bothers you?

I know I don't.