Hey guys, I need to know what to do soon, a really hot girl found out that i was a pua from a traitorous wing and because she watched mystery's show, she knew all about it. Now everyone knows and because of her influence they all think i am a pervert and there are feeling of ill will toward me. This has gotten really bad. I know my judgement may be clouded, but right now I see three options:

1. Fight traitorous wing----won't fix anything, but will make me feel good

2. Apologise like a pussy---apologising for what I am, something I never want to do.

3. Try to win over snotty hot girl even though everyone around her, and her, hate my guts and will cut me off

4. Let it blow over, while enduring hate and acts of hate without saying anything

5. Confront everyone-----highest risk, but highest reward

understand i am an experianced pua that is 14 years old and fairly well looking, but not the best game

plz email me at alexanderkyte@gmail.com with suggestions and ways to go about any of these solutions, please be specific

'''This is a cry for help, please answer'''

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You left out a option.



6) Don't give a fuck.





I would go with option 6 if I were you. Real Alpha men don't give a shit about what people think they know. If she asks, be honest. Say yeah I use that stuff, and go into the whole ordeal how women have men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating. This just puts you on a equal playing field. If she doesn't like it ...then fuck her.

Again, I wouldn't go out of my way to tell her shit. Don't say shit unless you are confronted.


On a side note: this is why it's IMPERATIVE that you be fucking original when trying to become a PUA. You see what the price of being unoriginal gets you. That's right kids, learn a lesson from this guy on what not to do. (use canned material) You run that risk of getting caught every time you use canned material that's been pumped out on national TV.

You can AMOG the traitorous wing by saying he's just jealous that women like you more than him, and he has to spread rumors. Turn it on him. See AMOG destroyers.

You're looking at this all wrong. They think you're a pervert, well let them know that they're being ignorant and then educate them. You are merely trying to become better at interacting with people and become an all around better man. There's no shame in that, instead there is value and it shows that you want to better yourself, which is admirable. If they still don't get it after you explain it calmly and logically, without trying to win them over, just letting them know where they have missunderstood your intentions, then fuck them and let them know they aren't the people you thought they were and that they need to not be so close-minded if they want to hang out with you again. Then cut them off until/unless they stop being ignorant. If they keep being ignorant, then they're just hurting you are a person and hindering your progress and growth.

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Something the others haven't covered yet..

Cut off ties with that wing IMMEDIATELY, he is not a friend. Block his e-mail, and don't answer his calls.

Always avoid a fight unless it's life or death defense.

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Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Betta get outta his way!

dont care about it. its really not a big deal so you dont have to explain yourself to anyone. if anyone asks, its a great way to better ones self and be more social. your only 14 so really... youre going to look back on this later and laugh. stuff at 14 really isnt a big deal... ask anyone here

I did suggest that, just not that ridiculously severe. He's not attacking you, he's just not a good wing, he's being a dick. Sometimes people just aren't good in certain areas, maybe he's still a good friend otherwise though. You can have friends and then people you sarge with, they don't have to be the same thing. Look at me and L.A. Tripp, I hate the guy, but I'm sure he'll make a good wing. lol, j/k j/k.

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Where'd he say he was 14?

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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I think he wo9uld mean hes been gaming for 14 years? Cant see a 14 year old being a MPua

and then being called a perve LMFAO

more like 34,


So she knows you are a player act like you dont know what shes talking about and if she leaves, fuck her, find someone else

i am 14, just for those wanting to know, but i have misframed this, people won't even talk to me at school and my friends have stopped talking to me. They just hang up or walk away

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I'm with Rye Lee here.

There is no shame in being a PUA... you need to let them know that. Did they think Hitch from the movie was a "pervert"? I think not... and thats one of the best examples of a PUA in pop culture I can think of.

Many of the girls I game know that I'm a PUA before I get with them. It's not a bad thing and nothing to be ashamed of. People who would hate you for improving yourself are just miserable fools, and they only hate because misery loves company.

Explain what your all about , and to those who don't except that... fuck them, thier not worth your time or energy anyway.

Simply put they are trying to AMOG you in a way, knock you down a notch if you will.

My explaination for the show is very good. I simply point out that the "contestants" were all actors, especially the winner, and that people cannot beleive everything they see on TV. If they dont beleive you tell em to look it up on google, there is a video of the winner in other roles.

For the book i say its a nice STORY, and they should try reading it. Then i laff at them and tell them there is now "how to" to getting along with people.


In a private way talk to your wing and explain to him that what he did was ignorant, and a test of your trust in him. Explain to him that Wings do not argue/fight/exploit each other.

At your age your buddy may not be mature enuff to do this and you may have to fly solo when it comes to gaming.

As for handling the people "upset" with you, tell them they are making a big deal out of nothing. Tell them they are just jealous that your trying to be a better, more socail person and that they would be better served spending the time making fun of you doing the same.


Being a PUA is nothing to be ashamed of, as a matter of fact, some of the best ones on this very forum are very open about being a PUA.

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THE GREATEST THING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL - by Murdoc

High school is great. It is so great that it may be one of the greatest things ever to be called great. If greatness were breeds of canine, High School would be a Great Dane with cyborg implants like bionic hind legs, a taser for a tail and laser beam eyes.
Unfortunately the greatness of High School isn't realized until you leave it. Once they hand you that diploma and spank your ass in the direction you chose, you come to the realization that as dramatic and stressful as High School can be at times, it ends. High School will end and it will vanish into the past like Milli Vanilli or The Coasters, or Todd Rundgren (who the hell is Todd Rundgren?).
I had some embarrassing moments during my high school days. But you know what? Everybody has. And we survived. Soon it will all be behind you. And your true colors, the person that you are, your genuine sincerity, your loyalty to your true friends, your desire to better yourself, these things will be what define you.
Unfortunately, you're stuck in highschool for a few more years and while you may heed my words and the words of others that have been in your shoes, nothing will make sense until you get to tell High School to fuck off.

The greatest thing about high school is that it ends. It is temporary. Far more temporary than the effects of going out there and becoming the best man you can be.


Now. Why are people hating on you for trying this stuff out on people at your high school?

1- Any guy who asks the question "how do i get THAT girl" and who watched the VH1 show or stumbled across any PUA reading material and was TOO SCARED to try it will hate on you for actually trying it.

2- You tried it on some chick with close ties to you. I'm so bad at this PUA stuff I go to a different zip code to try it because the last thing I want is to have something like this blow up in my face amongst people I know. I will wait until I get good at this stuff and even then I may keep it strictly strangers.

3- I'm a comic book dork, but if you've ever read the X-Men series it revolves around super powered people being persecuted by normal humans. Normal humans are scared of their power, they don't understand their power and they think it's going to be used against them in harmful ways. Since people do not understand or even WANT to understand a pick up artist, they will constantly persecute you. If you're not getting the picture, imagine yourself as Frankenstein being chased by angry villagers with pitch forks.

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It sounds like you are leaving something out, because from my point of view, I don't understand how they could see you as a pervert. Does you wanting to get more action make you a perv? Hell no! You just go about it in a different way than the AFC, "Hey I like your shirt, wanna go out some time?". Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea why you would be alienated for running PUA material. I know I wouldn't lose any friends if they ever found out. From what I've read, don't most women find it intriguing and test you to see if the material works (and it always does, but they make excuses), not walk away from you? I'm in High School and I recently went through a three month period with hardly any friends (I'm back on track now, thank god), so I know how you feel. Don't ever trust your anger emotions to make decisions, it will almost always end badly. Give things time, most likely they will work themselves out (people in HS have about a week long attention span, so hopefully they will forget all about your incident quickly). I think that Murdoc's advice was really good, so listen to him, and if you are leaving out essential information like I think you are (I apologize if you are not) please tell us! It will allow us to give you better advice.

I love Murdoc's post. High school is temporary, and there ARE times that I miss it now that it's gone. But remember, it goes quickly. It may not seem like it, but all these people who are ignoring you now will soon come around. Maturity has a lot to do with this, and at your age it might be an issue.

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Murdoc is also on the ball, excellent post.

However i dont completely agree with him about not gaming close to home. So what if you mess up with someone you know, all the better when you make progress and they realize it.

Ive got a friend in my immediate social circle who would cringe at the idea of being with me intimately...or i should say would have, now she's warming upto me. Im sure i make mistakes with her and around her but i dont care...and she notices more and more the changes i make.

She is always mentioning in positive ways how different i am acting now, how different i look. Complimenting me on the things i am wearing and doing.

Sooner or later she will go from the girl who used to know my friends and thought that i was gross, to being head over heels for me. Best part is i honestly dont care, im just using her for practice. Ill stop things before they get too far...maybe...or maybe she will get tossed into LTR if i chose it to be so.

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