The Jerk vs. The Nice Guy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:21 am 
NOTE: This is an excerpt from The GunWitch Method.

The debate of nice guys vs. jerks has been raging for quite a long time.

The nature of being a nice guy, however, is commonly misunderstood. It is believed that being polite, considerate, friendly, tender, romantic, etc. is what being a nice guy is all about and thus those qualities should be avoided, as it is the jerk, the rude, the inconsiderate, the impolite, the rough guy who always gets the girl while the nice guy is waiting outside in the pouring rain with flowers in his hand.

It doesn't mean that women prefer rude over polite, inconsiderate over considerate, etc. It all becomes clear when we look at a very important issue often overlooked when trying to define what makes the jerks beat the nice guys when it comes to getting the girls.

It is sexuality - the jerks are not afraid to show that they are sexual beings, while the nice guys hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite, and courteous towards women.

It dawned on me as it has, that the androgyny is key. Women fall for bastards because they don't turn off the sexuality. nice guys think women will be terrified of their sexuality, so they turn it off and all they get is women responding to their androgyny (sending all nice guys to LJBF-land)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:54 am 
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its true guys. even tho some guys are dicks, they will get the girl because they are also more aggressive. they are not afraid hit on the girl and be a little inapporpriate for attention. nice guys will step back and watch with envious anger as he watches some asshole violate the girl of his dreams.

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I've heard that particular passage quoted many times, and I agree with it.

If any of you haven't already I'd recommend going to "Fast Seduction" and pull up all the archive posts from Gunwitch, Juggler, Mystery, etc.

Personally I love Juggler's style, haha.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:04 pm 
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its true, watch I Love New York 2.... Tailor Made is the nicest guy to her, he buys her flowers, expensive shoes, anything she wants... but yet he's just her lil bitch, the men of the house, Punk and Buddha are the ones that get her all hot and heated and ready to fuck, she just keeps Tailor Made around as a safety net b/c she knows she can use him and walk all over him... The nice guys always think they have a chance but a girl doesn't want a man who's never gonna stand up for himself, take charge or make the tough decision; she's looking for a strong man with ideals and beliefs that will provide for her and protect her, not some guy that is gonna be her lil bitch...

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mate i believe you can be the nice polite guy who dosnt give in to a girls every demand,

you can still poke fun at a girl, neg etc, still be the mysterious character, still hold your own frame, without been rude or obnoxious. tell her she's sexy but been like, "your so hot im going to make you ride my dick all night." may not go down well with every girl, where as whispering to her "that you rincredibly turned on and finding her sexy" is still showing your confident and sexually interested.

there was a quote read on here, it may eb a mystery qoute, but dont tlet any girl steal your frame, only be arrogant and obnoxious if thats how you are, if your polite then dont put on an attitude thats not you thats what game is, been the best you can be not been some1 else.

if you are polite then realise girls like sex, and want sex to, dont be scared to show you want it to, but how you project that is up to you.

dotn let people steal your frame,

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:32 pm 
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This is what I tell people whenever they refer to me as a "nice guy".

Me: whoa..whoa..whoa....you got me confused with the other kids around here, I'm not a nice guy. I'm a nice person with a bad boy attitude.


Most of them get exactly what I'm saying, and the ones I don't, I break it down for them.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:48 pm 
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thats fantastic saqchek

wot were sayin in one sentence.

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What the afc sees is the Jerk, what the woman sees is the confidence. It's easy to take the wrong lesson from the situation if you focus on the wrong traits.

Good posts. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:44 am 
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It is sexuality - the jerks are not afraid to show that they are sexual beings, while the nice guys hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite, and courteous towards women.
can u explain how does a nice guy/jerk would show their sexuality?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:51 am 
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It is sexuality - the jerks are not afraid to show that they are sexual beings, while the nice guys hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite, and courteous towards women.
can u explain how does a nice guy/jerk would show their sexuality?
Basically, by not being AFRAID to talk about sex.

See this thread for an example . . .

viewtopic.php?p=61778#61778


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:27 am 
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See this thread for an example . . .

viewtopic.php?p=61778

i actually can't see that. im not a PMZ member so i can't see that topic


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:38 am 
Oops, didn't think about that, lol. Ok, I'll pm you something.


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