ok so I go out sarging with between 2 and 5 of my mates, and they just seem to wait around getting drunk until hopefully any girl comes up to them and hope for the best.

If a girl/group comes up to us then all they do is act immature and block each other out by cockblocking, they take the piss out of each other, put each other down, and fight for the girls attention, this happens every time, then the girls leave

Ive tried sitting them all down and saying "Right, if we all respect each other and stop trying to steal each others girls then we will all probably pull" and I get acused of "trying to get the fit one all to myself" as they tried this one night and I did get the fit one. and we all pulled. 5 girls 5 boys, one each.

Does this happen often or am I just hanging round with immature friends?.

Yes . . . it seems that whenever this happens to me the most outrages person in my group will get the girl which is kind of ironic because me true wing and i will just sit back and look at our friends fight be we will just kind of look at each other and be like wow . . we are hanging out with HUGE AFC's. My thought on this is if ur friends are cock blocking u then 1. They are huge assholes or 2. U just dont need to go sarging with them.

If they want to go out and get drunk then go out and do that run your group of friends and approach women show them how its done and hopefully they will finally understand what you are saying . . .because u said if the group / girl comes up to you . . go get the girl or group

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Take my advice and learn this lesson well. Either that or continue going home alone and jerking off. Your choice.


Stop going out with your friends. (sarging at least) Guys like that DLV the hell out of you, so even if you aren't participating, you are going to look like a loser to the girls to. You've heard the saying "birds of a feather, flock together?", well it's true or at least the perception of that is true.

Your friends might not be assholes persay, they just don't get it. You have to understand where you are at (psychologically) in terms to them. You know the social interactions and what the results will be, they do not, and probably wouldn't believe it until they see you racking up women left and right.

It's like one friend who is a genius at math trying to explain advance calculus to his best friend who's a English guru. When or if they decide to pick it up, then you guys can relate. Until that time, leave them home when sarging.

As it is now, I have friends I get drunk with and friends I sarge with. I don't talk about PUA stuff with my friends and most likely never will. Not unless they ask me about my success or whatnot.

yeah i feel wat ur saying this same thing happened to me. my home girl was supposed to introduce me to this girl at my church instead she invites her and all our friends (which are guys) to go to eat and the movies. my cock was blocked.

my 6'2 300 pound friend sat in between me and the girl and my other friend sat across from her so i had no way of talking to her.

it was my fault for not telling them that i was intrested before she got there but we were trying to tell my offensive tackle friend to move over and he acted like a bitch but what ever i just sat there and watched them over act and try to steal each others limelight.

oh well i lived and learned.

Immature friends man. Work alone. It will be better for you.

They're obviously not wingmen then, because wingmen watch your back, but they don't take your targets. You might have to establish a way of indicating who gets a target first. Generally it goes by whoever opens the set gets to pick their target and you take turns opening sets. If a guy doesn't open sets, then he has no right to pick and so he gets whatever may or may not be left.

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Work alone.

Worst case make em watch "A Beautiful Mind." The part were he discovers his economic theory in relation to 5 girls at a bar.

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I found it you can thank me later.

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It isnt your fault, none of you guys...you simply should not have to outright tell a buddy you are intrested in a girl. They should see it. Likewise you should not be gameing a chick of theirs.

However there is some fault which lies on you guys who are getting cockblocked. Its not being Alpha, not setting your friends straight, and ultimatly not leaving the situation ofr another set if you cannot come to a resolve.

First off, buddies bash on each other. Counter it, start now so that months from now it either doesnt happen or you can DHV while countering it. Do not participate in makeing fun of someone. Counter AMOG and/or neg them, but do not outright make fun of them.

Secondly if a friend steps outta bounds put them on the spot right then and there, verbally. Let them know that the way they are acting isnt cool/acceptable/right. Worst case pull them aside.

And lastly if they do not understand or will not meet half way with you then at that venue leave that set and open your own. After that time out do not game with them around.

The only way gameing with your buddies will work is if they veiw you as alpha and know its not ok to step on toes.

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Yeah, I just glanced at the original post. If I read every long post on here, I wouldn't get anything done, I already don't get enough time for everything else.

I still say he's not being a wingman and that's the topic. I don't know what OP stands for, so I may have misunderstood what you said, but if the other guy is purposely taking the guy's target just because he was told he had no chance, then he's not a wing, he's just being the bad type of AMOG, the obstacle type, why would you associate with that and make life harder for you? Who cares if he got him into the game, fuck him if he's an asshole. People need to learn, so if that person is your target and you're not gonna get her, who cares, that doesn't mean you don't get rights to sarge her. If that was the case, then why would people do workshops, because Mystery and other gurus would just take all the targets and the students would be left feeling pissed off for being AMOGed.

Again, may have misunderstood what you said, so let me know.

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Yeah, you were implying it was some confusion on the other PUAs with whose target he had. The other PUA knew it was his target and deliberately gamed her in front of him. This isn't a situation where he rolls into a set not know and inadvertantly games the target. He knew full well what he was doing and did it anyways. Why the OP even let it happen is beyond me. The way I see it, bitch had 2 kids....who needs all that luggage.


OP= original poster

Yeah so they actively just ruin each others chances by blocking each other out. fighting for attention, being AFC, and dragging me down with them, basically cramp my style

and NOONE GETS LAID BECAUSE OF IT
Yeah this is what I'm talking about, I was searching for this exact clip but couldnt find it cheers for that

I did put one in his place, he was trying to DLV me and I said in front of the whole group "dont worry about him hes just trying to look cool, be the macho man and all that " and I didn't hear another word from him.

I kinda feel sorry for them sometimes as they can't control their natural reactions. I was disarming an AMOG by being his friend and I think I negg'd him a few times and the wingman kept telling me what im doing is so funny and the AMOG could see that he was being talked about and it gave the game away

Sorry, I meant it in broad terms, so that whether they were doing it on purpose, or not, you just need to make sure your wings know who gets what target, when and not fuck with that. That's a key part of being a wing. If they aren't agreeing to let you have your target, when its YOUR target, then they aren't wings, they are obstacles and that just makes running game harder, which is opposite of what you want to do.

Honestly Simcity, I wouldn't be sarging with these guys at all. Its making your life much harder than it should be. If you can't get them to agree to picking targets and not cockblocking each other, then it's like cutting off your left hand and then seeing how well you can rock climb. The only time you switch targets when you're with a wing, is when you agree that you both like the other girl better, then you swap, or if one of you REALLY likes a girl and the other guy says its cool because he only kinda likes her.

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First man i want to say your Neil Strauss Pic popped up outa nowhere.
as far as you situation its all free game if she's not your girlfriend then if you get out muscled that's your problem. You got to understand you boys are all after the same thing you want "The girl". But if you seriously got a problem with your boys then dont' go out with them. Wingmen can sometimes be trouble

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First man i want to say your Neil Strauss Pic popped up outta nowhere and scared the crap outta me.....
But as far as your situation goes its all free game if she's not your girlfriend then if you get out muscled by your boys that's your problem. You got to understand your boys are all after the same thing you want "The girl". But if you seriously got a problem with your boys inferring then don't go out with them do it alone that's how i sometimes do works wonders. Wingmen can be trouble

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