| I'm still reading through this thread, but I'd like to add some input.
Some background information, I've trained in Brazilian Juijitsu, kickboxing, mma for 3 years, dabbled in capoiera, tae kwon do, karata, muay thai and judo.
In regards to brazilian juijitsu I am rather proficient at brazilian juijitsu.
Now in regards to fighting on the street/bar/club, I've been in 3 street brawls with me fighting 2 people or 3 people.
I've also been in 2 with a single opponent.
In regards to me, I've not started any of these fights, wrong place at the wrong time, or a friend of mine being drunk etc.
The first 2 pages states that BJJ is relatively ineffective in the street/club, especially against multiple people. In all fights, I've used my and not once been stomped on the head etc... I've double legged guys, gone to knee ride, choked people out when necessary and what not. It's all about knowing your surroundings though, if you're going to choke a guy, make sure no one can come up behind you, eg when I had to do it, I arm dragged the guy after he threw a punch, then took his back, stayed standing and backed up to the wall and then choked the guy with a rear naked. That took maybe 15 seconds total, and used the guy as a body shield to protect me.
How ever I don't condone the actions, I just did what I felt was necessary in the situation I was given.
It's late and don't feel like editting what I said above, just finished reading through this thread. Some great opinions in here, but I get the feeling a lot of you here, haven't been in a street fight, or club fights.
In BJJ, knee ride works perfectly on the street, quick trip or single leg, pass his legs, knee ride, you can spot people coming at you and see him etc..
*sigh* sleep beckons me.
My basic opinion is
BJJ + wrestling or judo, both are really good and offer different things.
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