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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:26 am 
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I like experimenting. So I have adapted few routines to fit me better and I will use some of them this Sunday on a date with an ex (we broke up many years ago, she started contact when she broke up with her bf) and if they work I will use them in the future. I don't care at all if I ruin it or not, so I will take any risk I need.

5 Lies. This is a classic, so I will skip some parts. I assume I'm doing this in a comfort phase after attraction is almost clear, so adapt it if you want to use it in a different situation.
First, the bet (rules explained before of this): if she wins, I will allow her to kiss me, and if I win, she will invite me for a drink (in a cocky funny way). If she goes in, perfect, if not, just make a drinking bet and don't make a big deal of it. Then, I have a special sequence of questions really useful as you might see:

Me: What time did you get here?
She: 7am
This is similar to the mock one, What is the sky color? Red

Me: What do you think about me?
She: You are boring hahahah/You are the most boring guy I have ever met and I don't want anything to do with you (+biting lips)/...
If you gamed her right, she must say mid-highly negative things while she is smiling in a slightly sexual way. This is a great question as you get her thinking intensely in a good way about how you make her feel and thoughts are way more powerful than words. At the same time, it gives you a fucking clear evaluation of your game. The more negative things she says and the more wanna-fuck-you face she puts the better you played. That's why I love it.

Me: Have you ever made out in a first date (if the former one was clear)? What is your favourite place to make out / fuck? How did you feel the first time you kissed someone?
PLEASE. Don't ask AFC questions. The control question (1st one) is good as it's not personal. The second one is good as it's a daring personal question. You must avoid this: Do you like me? Do you want something with me? or whatever an insecure guy would ask.

Continue game as always

Basically, the 2 modifications are, the bet (I am the prize), and to make her talk very emotionally connected in the questions 2 and 3. Never tried the first one, but if you say the 2nd and 3rd questions I stated in a "don't you dare" sexual/funny face, it makes miracles. It doesn't matter what you say, as long as she THINKS positive things. But it's better if it's about you.

Dinner
I think we all hate them, but people normally have dinner. She asked me to meet and I said the day, but we have to have dinner because of the timing. So I said to have dinner in the Wok to walk (it is as it sounds), and I'm not sure if this is the best way to take pressure off or I should look for a place to sit in. I'd take her to some square to sit and have dinner close, but it could seem a bit stingy. Any recommendation about take away vs sit in or about the best place to have the take away would be great.

Dress sexy
I found a post that was useful to define a date previously (delete spaces: pick-up-artist-forum. com/had-dinner-with-hb-8-what-to-do-next-vt126405.html ). It recommended to say her to "dress sexy". Alright, so this is our conversation (facebook):

Me: [stuff]
Me: But dress something sexy eh! hahahah
She: jaja. sexy?. jajajaja. Why do you want me to dress something sexy?
Me: Why not?
She: I don't know. But the message amused me.
Me: hahahah. Alright, so dress something dull and boring if you want xP
She: I'll dress...cute...as always
Me: [more stuff]
She: It's a pity you have to leave, I wanted to talk to you a bit longer (It seems it worked!)
Me: See ya

It surprised me her question, what do you think about my teasing answer "Alright, so dress something dull and boring if you want xP"?

If I think/experiment with more, I'll post them here! Cheers


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The best thing to do is to have some ideas of what to do, but go in prepared to respond to anything that happens. Reacting to opportunities for conversation, actions, etc. is much more important than sticking to a plan.


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im worried about the 'dress sexy' text. could it come across as too forward and make her feel wierd?


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im worried about the 'dress sexy' text. could it come across as too forward and make her feel wierd?
No. Forward is good. Direct is good.

To OP: memorize your 5 lies game. Make sure it's 100% memorized, from beginning to end.

Don't worry about being stingy, that place sounds good. Sit somewhere pretty. Next to a fountain or something.

Conversation seems fine. I would usually drop the "dress sexy" part as:
"I gotta go. I'll see you later, wear something sexy." so there's no discussion over it.
But you handled yourself alright.

Good luck.


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 Post subject: Hi frank91!
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I like this post! I think I know what the 5 lies is but is there a link to it where it's explained fully? Is it like reading eye movements? Thanks in advance, also how did you get on on the date? :)


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 Post subject: Hi frank91!
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I like this post! I think I know what the 5 lies is but is there a link to it where it's explained fully? Is it like reading eye movements? Thanks in advance, also how did you get on on the date? :)


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just tried the 'dress sexy' thing and she did not like it.
She replied with 'why would you say that?' then told me I was rude


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just tried the 'dress sexy' thing and she did not like it.
She replied with 'why would you say that?' then told me I was rude
Probably isn't interested, or you've been acting like a friend with no sexuality at all.

It's your fault, not the line's fault.
Would you feel comfortable holding this girl's hand? I expect you would not. Figure out why, and then you'll know your problem.


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Weve kissed and made out. and on one occasion on the last date she kissed me.

However she replied after the messages above that she thinks things are going to fast.
I get the impression shes quite reserved from things shes said


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Weve kissed and made out. and on one occasion on the last date she kissed me.

However she replied after the messages above that she thinks things are going to fast.
I get the impression shes quite reserved from things shes said
PM me if you still want to talk after this post.

'Going too fast' means lack of interest. Try backing off for a couple weeks, get out and do fun things. When you do talk to her, maybe 1-2 times a week, have the conversations be full fun things you've been doing lately. Don't brag about them, as soon as she tries to change the topic, change with her.

I can't imagine a girl I've kissed being uncomfortable with "dress sexy." I can't say for sure what her mindset is.


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I'm really curiuos, what is the psychology behind people saying "PM me for more info" why not just continue the discussion out here, where everyone can learn?

Is it because people are scared other people will poke fun of their methods, or they themselves are not confident they would work??


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Is it because people are scared other people will poke fun of their methods, or they themselves are not confident they would work??
Does it need to be self-conscious?

I don't like to take over a thread, to alternate posts with one other person, like I tend to do. After a certain point, if someone continues to have questions then it's probably a comprehension problem, and I'd prefer to deal with that over PM rather than reiterate the same points repeatedly in one thread.

Don't worry, he never PM'd me, you didn't miss anything.


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