Hey players, this is my very post here in this forum. I have been a huge fan in PUA back in my freshman year in university. Now I am in third year now and am slowly progressing in my PUA journey.

I like to do Day Game a lot, and I just had a day 2 with a HB7 from the local university. It was a typical coffee date/hangout, pretty much we just talked for an hour and a half. She has great energy and is very talkative, so I maintained good contact and teased her here and there. We didn't really get physical at all (lol), and now in retrospect, I should have at least applied routines like palm reading to spice it up a bit.

Now here's the thing. Before the coffee thing happened, I used the surprise opener to confirm it: "Hey coffee today at 5. BTW I have a lil surprise for you..." It always gets good reply and let you know if the date is happening for sure. So the surprise is actually a truth and dare deck lol. She seemed very interested and was about to open the case and read the cards, but I stopped her and said "nah nah next time, don't spoil the fun". I was actually planning to play it with her at her room but she had a floor meeting at her campus residence shortly after so it didn't happen.

So after the date was over and I walked her to her residence on campus, I asked when would be the next time we could chill, she said she wasn't sure and would keep in contact. I tried to pull out the "surprise deck" again lol but she was like "Ya... I dunno it sounds kinda naughty..." It was a shit test and I don't think I handled it well, as I just said "OK we will see... See ya" and walked away without hugging her.

I texted her about 3 hrs later:

Me: "Hey XXX, it was fun, I really like your energy! We should chill sometime this week "

Her: "I have to get back to you on this, cuz I have a bunch of stuff due this week"

This isn't the best reply ever... But at least better than nothing lol. So I tried to recover for a bit by saying:

Me: "Oh I mean this weekend... Ya I got labs and midterm this week. Good thing we have tea to get us through" (We grabbed tea for the date)

No reply...


Now my questions are:

1. What are some good ways to get more physical in first date? How to escalate things asap even after the ordinary hangout like coffee date?

2. Based on her response, did I actually screw up? Got friendzoned? And should I just move on?

3. What is the chance of me getting a day 3? And what would be the good game plan for it? Take her out for dinner then back to my place, instead of coffee? Or keep the coffee date going?

THANKS A LOT guys, this is my very first post, so sorry if I made this post too long...

Any help is appreciated

You did pretty okay until:
You shouldn't have pulled out your "surprise deck", as you call it so ambiguously, again. At this point she thinks that you only want to have sex with her, which you don't want to talk about until there is at least some kino going on.

1. Read everything you can find on kino, you'll be fine.

2. I think I already answered that one..

3. You might get a day 3, wait a week and call her. Do whatever you like for the next date but leave the "surprise deck" out of it this time, you can use it if you manage to get her home


Hope I could help

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First of all, thanks for your help, C1PH3R
Ya now I think back, this is actually a pretty AFC move on my end lol... So instead of pulling out that deck at the end, I should have just ended like normal, like I have a great time, hug, even kiss her on the cheek then peace out.
Will do. Another AFC move I made is in the follow up text, I explicitly said "We should chill later this week". It may sound kinda needy even I tried to recover by saying this WEEKEND, which actually shows even more neediness... Should have just said "We should chill later". Period.

I know I would have to freeze her out for upcoming days. But for now, since I mentioned this weekend, should I really follow up with her by weekend like Saturday to get a Day 3 on Sunday? Or I should wait a week like you said? Should I just text or JUST call her this time?

Also I am thinking about the sushi place near my place, but for more natural kino and less awkward moment I prefer ice skating... Honestly there wasn't even any awkward moment last time because she actually is extremely talkative.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Ice skating is awesome for dates, lot's of kino like you said! I would go with that one if I were you. Good luck.

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Yep C1PH3R, you are absolutely right... As a matter of fact, I just texted her on Saturday (today) but nope no reply.

So instead of showing the intent of playing the deck SOO explicitly and end up showing your neediness, I just devised a routine for this deck which I am definitely gonna try out for the next date.

1. Keep using the surprise opener as mentioned above, for date confirmation and open loops.

2. During the date, mention about the surprise, then bring out this truth or dare deck. HOWEVER, this time don't show her the intent that you wanna play truth or dare. Instead, say that you are going to SURPRISE her by showing her a few card magic tricks, and pretend this is the most usual deck in the whole world. So this way, when she is interested in playing the truth or dare deck, she would think that it is actually HER idea, not yours. You could even say "This is actually the only deck left at my place, and I just borrowed it from my roommate"

3. If she's really interested (most likely), you could lead her on by saying this deck has to be played somewhere more private. If she complies, the rest is no-brainer...

4. Otherwise, just pack up the deck after the magic tricks are done (make sure she is aware of the content of the deck first though). Then forget about the deck, proceed with other routines, and don't mention a word about the deck for the rest of the date.

Let me know what you guys think of this routine
It's fixable huh... But how? Could you elaborate?

Thanks.

Yes! This is great! Be sure not to mess up your magic though. I know a few tricks and it really sucks if you fail in front of an audience

Let me know how it went, this one might be golden when using the truth or dare deck.

I think your mistake was jumping to seduction too soon without building enough comfort.

Try to get some facetime with her. You met her at the local university? Should be possible. Ask her to grab a cup of coffee with you because you want to apologize for your behaviour last time or something like that, just make something up.

When you do, you should make clear that sex is not your only intention and that you like her as a person that you would like to get to know bettter. Don't just outright say it like that though. Try to get this into her head during comfortbuilding.

(If you really just want sex though, you should also make that clear. If she's not into that, too bad, let her go. In my opinion you shouldn't hurt girls with false agenda's. And if you just want to sleep with her she won't be that important anyway. NEXT!)

Once you get her in attraction again, start building comfort and when the time is right you can try to seduce her again. Don't pull out the deck until you've established another proper date though.


Good luck!

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