Ok, so i got this number last night. I would say that she is about a HB7 or 8, but she is just my style. The sweet librarian girl next door type. So i've got her number and i need to call her; but i can feel in my chest that i really care about not screwing this one up. I know that the first rule is to not let yourself care.

does anyone have any advise on what i should do, say, whatever?

usually (in my AFC days) if i really liked a girl i would call the next day; should i wait a couple days instead?

thanks.

hey Sakas...just my humble opinion somewhere in the forum there are advices about this subject... If you call NEXT DAY you are going to look too needy and we don't want that... if you call on the SECOND DAY its to my judgement pretty safe you don't look needy and you don't look like if you don't give a damn...if you call on the third day may still be good but sometimes girls act like if they don't know who you are and the convo becomes akward.
Its just my opinion maybe some of the guys can give you a better advice.

_________________
The great mystery of all times finally has been decoded.

i hate the calling moment, i personally hate the phone, and not being able to control the situation because you never know is she is going to be there or not, what is she going to be doing.
What i have found for me, is that starting from 0 is hard, so i think it can be useful to call a friend before, so you get in a talkative mood, and then maybe if you have another girl who you know is going to answer call her too. I have also found that preparing the conversation also helps, and even prepare a funny joke if you can come with one. Also have in mind the outcome you want to get so that you don`t have to think on the fly.
As for the day , i would say 2 day but i think sunday is not a good day because normally people are tired , so i would personally call any friday or saturday prey on monday, after 8.30 pm ( that is for my country, maybe in yours times go differently).
As an ideal ( what i need to apply because i am not doing it right enough) i would say it wouldn`t harm to tell her when you get the phone that you are calling her on a particular day. I will call you about monday ... so that she is prepared and expects you to call. That would go nicely as a confirmation call for the time bridge Mystery advises. I like the time bridge idea but i wouldn´t go to the set place without calling first.

Hope that helps

I think I read somewhere, never tried it....!!!! That you should leave a text msg the next day or the day of receiving the phone number in the lines of something like "I got the perfect nick name for you"..and it will make the day 3 call much more comfortable even if she sends you back a msg saying "What is it, whats the nick name". Just leaves her actually thinking and remembering you until you call day 3. Anything can be said in the text, just something to make her think about you is cool.

i let my excitement get the best of me and called just a second ago. i guess i'm still a rAFC!

I did what Zenit said about calling a couple friends beforehand and i think that helped.

When i called she picked up; she sounded happy once she figured out it was me on the phone, but had to go pretty quickly because she was with a client. When she calls back i think i'm going to try to get her to go for coffee tomorrow. well.... we'll see!

(*thanks for the advice guys!)

Hi Sakas,

Don't worry, bro... we all revert to our AFC selves once in a while. But if you realize it, you've already won half the battle.

My 2 cents. Before I spit phone game, I do call a few other friends to get warmed up. I know I shouldn't, but I do have 1-2 drinks, but no more to relax me if I'm feeling wound up. And based on how wound up I feel, I may jot 1 or 2 topics (no details) to talk about it case I get stuck.

That's my 2 cents. But I'm curious to hear other opinions as I think my phone game is just average compared to my street game.


Respectfully,

M

Dude , you can call when ever. Thats not the point , aslong as you can BOUNCE BACK. What ever she ses to you on the phone , all you goto do is bounce back at her. Do your self a favour and make 3 plans for phone calls

1) if shes cocky to you , think of some cocky rhymes back.
e.g. Easy now Ego-Star , REAL ladys dont talk like that you know !

2) if shes warm , be warm back .. come up with some clever rhymes
e.g. Hey LADY , just calling to say hi ... you know your my peak of the week haha! hows your day going.

3) THE VOICE MAIL - God i hate the voicemail , it can go either way ... think of something smart to say like " Hey Janice , Its that irrestible guy you couldn't stop talking to last night ! ... your voice mail sounds cute ! you should call me back and see how myn sounds.

Alpha male OUT!

_________________
just living the dream son.

Saka's call back??? Good luck bro.

Keep us posted, man. We're all pulling for you.

I've heard all kinds of things about when to call, such as waiting a general 3 days to call so it *seems* like you're really busy or have a lot going on.

I've also heard to call on a weekday so it doesn't *appear* that you've got no life if you call on a saturday or friday.

Blah blah, Maybe I'm still AFC about this but I don't like those two things, it seems unnecessary. If I've got time (I DO actually keep very busy these days, college will do that to you haha) I just wait a day or so to call. The day after is needy, but 3 days or more is too much in my opinion, it seems like just the right amount of time to wait a day. I have yet to have a bad experience with this. I just assume she's happy that you call within a reasonable time frame and she'll probably still remember who you are hehe.

Great tips tho guys, never thought to call a friend beforehand I'll do that from now on!

Thanks for all the response guys! Sorry i haven't been around lately; the holidays have been getting the better of me.

The callback didn't go to well. She claimed she had a bf and i didn't have the stomach to pull a boyfriend destroyer over the phone. Oh well; i'll add her to my calling rotation anyway.

if she sais she has a bf it doesn't mean you have to stop...(sorry for those of you who have different beliefs)...
most of girls will overlay two relationships to avoid The Gap...
all she's saying is you did not hook on...and the mood she was in is now different...

she's using her logical response to push you off...probably because that's the kind of talk you had with her

talk to her emotional side to get a positive response...a simple event can flow like multisensorial paint on a canvas if you describe it with your emotional intelligence

check out this thread...it could be useful
http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/s ... -game.html

It could also be a subtle form of ASD. She wants to let you know, right now, that she doesn't want to be your new girlfriend. Which is fine, because you may not want her to be your new girlfriend either.

Just assume until later that her boyfriend is made up. If she gives you proof to the contrary, let your conscience be your guide.

_________________
Repent now and save 50% on your next divine judgment.
-Monkey's Little Brother, Spud