Thanks Kieran, I bookmarked your website and I've been through some of it already. You won't hear from me for a while though, I'm actually getting ready to travel for 3 weeks! Talk to you when I'm back.

Great, enjoy your trip, travelling is awesome for your long term game development. I find it really helps with perspective.

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If anyone is intersted this is Chris Manak's website URL, he runs workshops out of Melbourne for a living http://www.manicworkshops.com/

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For those of you who enjoyed '25 tips for approaching' here is the link to the latest article by Chris Manak "The Most Important Thing - Strength in Love and Life" http://wayoftheplayer.com/the-best-of-w ... -and-life/

As I'm sure you can see, Chris Manak is one of the few PUA's I have actually met that I have found to be the real deal. His articles are all from the heart and he doesn't beat around the bush with pseudo concepts, models etc. Anyway feel free to check it out if you liked his other article.

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Thanks for posting that article Kieran, it was a great read. I'm definitely going to spend some more time reading over at that site.

And actually, just rereading this thread gave me some reminders on what I haven't been doing.

No problem at all

It's nice when you find writers that really make you re-evaluate things and cut straight to the core; Chris Manak is one of my favourite seduction writers he doesn't write a lot but when he does it is always really well thought out and passionate.

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I go out all the time by myself. This mentality of going out by yourself is stifling at first. But, I realize when I do go out with friends, I tend to leave them anyways to go pick up or go on adventure. Then I realize that it doesn't matter if you are alone or not. Your game is still the same and it's all in your head :p.

To simplify things, basically, my game is "I don't give a f*** what you think. This is my movie ... not yours"

Girls do not care about your looks, or your crappy personality, if you are alone, or if you are in a wheel chair (I just saw this dward looking guy on a wheel chair do a make out with a 7... last night ... looks do not matter)... all they are attracted to is that you are not in their movie and that you are in your own movie.

So WTF is being in your own movie mean? Well basically you do not care what others think of you. You are COMFORTABLE and RELAXED having fun or being alone. You are authentic and do not need openers that go "under the radar" ... If you are Comfy and Relaxed ... you can open with "Hi my name is Donston. Who are you?" ... You can even use my name if it makes you more confident ^_^. Don't be needy ... girls can sense this! To be non needy, you constantly provide value and you don't suck value.

My game
1) in state, 2) a clear intent, 3) Outcome independent, 4) self amused, 5) went physical right away, 6) saw the escalation windows and took them, 7) saw they were ready to be pulled so pulled them. This is the same with every single girl, and you just calibrate depending on her responses.

Believe me the first time I went out by myself ... I wasn't even able to enter the club and walked in the cold for hours. When I finally got the balls to enter ... I would stand against the wall and got drunk like a chode ... the next time I forced my self to open two girls ... the next time it was 3 girls ... the next time I made it a goal to open everyone in the venue (building momentum to get in to state). The next time I got a number ... the next time I isolated ... etc etc ... baby steps after like 60 days of going out by myself ^_^. Over like 3 - 4 years of baby steps and learning, I am able to be competent in this game called pick up! Consider this as a journey, takes lots of exposure and providing your brain proof that this is possible. Don't beat up your self when you suck or make mistakes ... observe your positive improvements ... learn from your mistakes then forget the mistakes and move on .... The Field is King on improving ... therefore, go out more!

Sincerely,
Donston

PS: I'm Asian and 5'7'' ... fuck looks or money or BS chode excuses ... I saw a dwarf looking guy on a wheel chair do a make out last night ... I was WOWed ... lol!

Great job Donston, i also went out alone and did great. I still need more experience, but that will come with time. I feel i could do great things with just one wing, but even alone im good. Last year i went out with 5 friends of mine and didnt get anything. Off course, i wasnt in the game back then, but two weeks later things changed. I went out alone and talked with 5 hbs, danced with some of them, flirted *one girl was all over me, but i didnt closed the deal...lack of experience*! Still, i didnt closed the deal, but it was a great start for me. Made some mistakes, but now i learned a lot from them. Never give up

Sorry mate, looks and personality definitely DO matter. If you think that way then the only guy you will be playing in your movie is the 40 year old virgin.

On another note, going out alone is a great way to build game and character; in order for us to be truly confident we need to know that we are self sufficient and not depedendent on others for good game.

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This is an idea, and, i mean no disrespect but if i were you, i would get glasses. If you are struggling to see and consequently squinting then you may just need them (and yes i wear them) i dont really wear mine socially, but you can. it may be enough to break the 'scary' look.

Glasses can show a sign of being weak or soft. but if you get some stylish ones that suit you then it may be the contrast that you have been looking for. Just enough contrast between scary/agressive (tall, built, tattoos) and sophistication/class = approachable?

let me know if you give it a go.

all the best out there bud.

Ben

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Way of the player is awesome, I spent a few hours reading articles last night.

So Jason, got any updates? How's it been going for you going at it alone?

I went out alone last night, did okay actually considering the lack of talent. Doing it again tonight, and there should be MUCH better women at this place.

And I'm done shooting low....I'm not bothering with anything less than a HB8.

Cheers Bo_Darville, we appreciate good feedback. Honestly I think WOTP has some of the funniest and most talented seduction writers in the world, I'm glad you enjoy it.

I'd also like to hear how Jason is going it seems like a long time since he posted this thread.

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which article is this? can you link it? definitely would like to read it. thanks.

No probs, here is the link http://wayoftheplayer.com/the-best-of-w ... proaching/

Also if you are interested in some extra reading on approaching here is the link for an article by Damien Diecke from school of attraction explaining "how to tell if a beautiful woman is approachable" http://wayoftheplayer.com/the-best-of-w ... roachable/

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Thanks for that, those links are great!