What is wrong with guys like us? I feel like I'll be in this situation very soon. I love my current GF, and think she is awesome. I'd be surprised if any girl gives me the same attention and affection as her, ever again in my life. I am sexually attracted to her, and I love her so much, that even her flaws have become lovable. Nonetheless, I can't help but think about meeting other girls, having other experience, getting in a relationship with the countless girls that pass me by.

There's nothing wrong with you. You are naturally poly-amorous. You'll be a lot happier if you just avoid monogamous relationships altogether (they're over-rated, in my humble opinion).

-Wolf

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Fair enough, but surely polygamous relationships aren't without their faults? Surely jealousy would be rife within that? For instance, if you are in such a relationship with a fellow lover, it must be impossible to accept that she was fucking another guy last night, before she came over to you.

Showing jealousy in ANY kind of relationship is bad.. poly or mono. Jealousy is a beta quality.. and you should do your very best to rid yourself of it. In a poly relationship you have a better outlet to work through your jealousy (more open and honest communication about sex and lust). Furthermore, once you actually get to hear real stories about other guys then you start to realize that they are mostly relationship-impaired... so being jealous of them is lame.

More importantly, you've already figured out for yourself that Monogamy isn't fulfilling all of your relationship needs. A poly-relationship is the next logical step. As I said before, you'll be happier.. I know I am. My long-term open relationship kicks ass (and not just because of the threesomes, although those are a perk).

-Wolf

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Wow, you are absolutely pathetic. In fact, you shouldn't deserve any kind of relationship. I was in long distance relationship and I then got married. For that whole long distance time we spent every day together webcame, talking, both of us made sure where we at so no cheating or any BS or drunk or any bad moral stuff. Very far apart, we see each other only once a year for a week. ONCE A YEAR FOR A WEEK. You get to see every 2 weeks! In the past, that would have been heaven for me, I don't care about doing anything physical either, as long as I could touch hands was good enough. But you, just give it up. You don't need or deserve a girlfriend, for now anyways. You probably need to grow up before getting serious.

*cough cough* ^who are you?

It looks like there are mixed feelings regarding the who "fat" thing. If some guy says he's not attracted to white girls is that racist? If some guy says that he wants to find a girl that is shorter than him does that mean that he's an asshole for discriminating against a female's height?

Attraction begins at the start, period. I have never met a man who screened for girlfriends based on personality alone, looks are always a factor. And any man that says that looks don't matter are lying. I don't blame you one bit for wanted to see her HEALTHIER. Here's the thing; everybody has their type. Why settle for a fat girl if you don't like fat girls? There are guys that DO like fat girls. If there's a guy that likes fat girls and a fat girl available then why would someone get on the OP's case for not wanting someone that isn't his "type." Whether or not the situation was handled correctly is a different story, but for people to blame and degrade somebody for having their own preferences??? It seems like some people on this board are trying to be too politically correct. Keep it real dude, go get the type of girl that you want.

If you would have just put that your ex wasn't putting out then everybody would have been on-board with you breaking up with her. But since you put that she was overweight then some people want to make you look like the bad guy, which is bullsh!t in my book. Grow up.

By the way, I don't like fat girls either, just a preference.

Wolfwood you're so against monogamy what do you plan on being a 60 yr old man still chasing ass. With a poly relationship there comes a lot of negatives you're greatly increasing your chances for contracting STD's your girl's going out getting screwed by other guys then coming home to you not cool. You'll find with that life style you form a lot of meaningless relationships that aren't going anywhere you deal with a lot of stupid girls who do not want to accidently get pregnant.

You have to have a certian type of character to handle a polyamorous relationship most guys aren't built for it.


^ married to a fat woman lol

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This became a slaughter fest of this poor boy who just went for what he wanted in an honest way, not cheating and not being a douche. He's a young guy wanting to live and not settle for less, what's wrong with that??

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I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

you sound like you are either

-a guy who has been extremely unsuccessful with women, and only holds on to this because you could not possibly get anything else

-a girl

-a troll

guy logic = I want a good looking girl, I like sex, sex = relationship, no sex = friendship
if a guy can not get sex then he falls in love with the girl he finds most attractive and believes he is the closest to getting sex from, and if he can get laid eventually as a result of repeated sex and time spent together love results (attractiveness of the girl should also be taken into account)

girl logic = I want an amazing man, I like strong feeling and want to feel in love, love = relationship, no love = friendship, sex is not that important but the way a guy makes you feel is, you fall in love and sex results, the more attractive the guy, the more strong those feelings

it is a ying to a yang between the sexes, and this is my take on how it works, not understanding this and being extremely critical for a guy thinking like a guy, or a girl thinking like a girl, is silly


girls and guys both trade up, don't be all butthurt because that is life, you can find plenty of women trading up and not even giving guys the time of day moreso then you find guys doing it, girls are naturally the more selective sex of the two sexes, both sexes cheat, both sexes trade up, that is life, everyone wants a good partner that they feel attracted to, and for men and women the agenda for what is important in this partner are different

I hate repeating myself on this subject so here's a link to the most comprehensive list I can find of reasons why monogamy doesn't work well in our society: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/se ... 4210553038 Furthermore, and more importantly, I have a great deal of first hand experience that monogamy doesn't work for me.

I suspect that the failure rate of poly-relationships is equal to, and maybe even less than, the failure rate of monogamous relationships. Unfortunately, there aren't really any accurate studies on the subject. I DO know that the failure rate of monogamous marriage is pretty damn high (failure = divorce, cheating or just being miserable).

I'm currently in an amazing open relationship.. going strong now for about a year and a half. It's not my first open relationship either. I actually do know what I'm talking about. For me, they have been an entirely positive experience. My GF treats me like a king. We are currently dating, as a couple, another girl.. which is also pretty fun. Yes, we both sleep with other people when we can't be with each other.. big deal. We totally share funny stories about it when we see each other. Moreover, if the other guys or girls are cool, then we invite them over for threesomes.

I screen hard when I find new girls so I'm guessing I have so far avoided "a lot of meaningless relationships that don't go anywhere".

Risk of STI's can be mitigated by using protection. Furthermore, the more common STI's are either over-hyped or curable (NOTE: let's not argue about this point right now.. there have been enough threads on this topic already). Anyway, does this fear really ever stop a guy from having sex with hot women?

EDIT: I also agree with everything Pumpington said. That dude (or girl?) sounds like a troll.

-Wolf

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I kinda beg to differ, monogamy can work well. The trick is to find someone who feels the same. My partner and I considered sleeping with others after being approached for a threesome by a girl that I worked with. She is very cute, very bubbly and open with what she wanted. However, we both regretfully declined. It's strange because either one of us alone would have slept with her. After talking about it (at length) and being totally honest with one another, we decided to keep the realms of our sexual relationship sacrosanct.


It's good that you found someone who shares your choice of lifestyle, Wolf. Clearly, it is not for everyone. Just like monogamy is not for everyone.

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How pathetic can us men be, though? I don't know if any of you guys have seen 'You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger', but there's a scene which IMO exemplifies how shallow and pathetic it is to fall for lust. Let me elaborate, Josh Brolin is in a relationship with Naomi Watts, and things are going pretty badly. Whilst, staring out his apartment window one day, he notices a sultry and exotic Indian girl (Freida Pinto) who is taking her clothes off in an opposite flat across the way. Naturally, Brolin becomes infatuated with her, and proceeds to hook up with her as the film progresses. Subsequently, he ends up in her apartment one day, and upon looking out of her window, this time he notices his ex who is now the woman looking incredibly sexy in lingerie across the block.

I don't know if Woody Allen intended anything particular with this course of events in terms of relating to lust or what not, but I think it goes to show that men in general tend to be attracted by the bird in the bush, irrespective of the bird in his hand. Even if the two birds were switched over, the feeling of lust and infatuation would still remain. Sure, it is in our biology to fuck as many different women as possible, but I think it says more about a man if he is able to resist those rather pathetic urges. The same women you want to leave for Mrs. X, is the same women you'd no doubt want if she was a stranger.

Yeah but Pulp Fiction shows us how badass us men can be..

I'm also curious about what they really feel for each other if it is a love or whatever, because I also have the same problem. and I realize that you are right. I'm a little bit enlightened on what you wrote. I can say that I'm learning. :

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