Hey guys, just a question about opening.

I find that when im in a club and i open a group, it's way to loud for all of them to hear me, even if i were to shout it. Also the correct body language (body rocking, not pecking) just makes this situation worse. So a lot of times ill end up having the groups attention for the first 4 seconds, and then only the people closest. The ones far away don't even attempt to listen because there's no chance they would hear. This leaves me showing a lot of interest to my girl straight away. She also starts to feel uncomfortable because there's a vibe that Ive dragged her from her friend's convo.. any tips on this?
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i'll tell you this:if you lose one person in the group,you lost them all...there's no point staying after,as you said,you gave too much.

in a situation like this,IMHO,you need to be agressive,dont worry yourself on her group,just stick to her,and be direct with your BODEY...after you appear on her redar,she'll listen to whatever you have to say,THEN you can approach the group,hope i helped.

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Cool dude that makes sense, and i guess they may even think you know each other or something. should i still be using an indirect opener if im being that forward with her?

Dude, if the group can't hear you, then there's no point in trying to engage them all. Approach your target directly, and pull her closer(kino). $peak into her ear, so she can definitely hear you. Tell her the two of you should go somewhere and talk

This is where and body language really comes into place
The way i deal with this is to speak loud AND slow, with pauses and expressiveness (thats the word) and position myslef in such way that 50% of the set will hear me, then the others will focus their attention on what i'm saying as well.

no,you have to go total direct at first,you'll get her attention.
but then,when you're alone with her,you can still make it indirect in a way,if that's really what you're comfortable with.

and make sure she'll introduce you to her friends,if she dosent right away,ask her to..
"introduce me to your friends common"it's for validiation,and for gaming her friens if needed.

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