College desk I may add it's one of those seats the swirl around haha but generally what are some tips to project alphaness while sitting, where should i place my arms and hands? I know I should take up as much space ( which I do with my legs) but I sometimes feel akward about the placement of my Arms.

I feel that the best position while sitting is to be very relaxed, no stiffness in the back, spread widely your legs and find a place to lay your hands that is not in front of your chest (like in your knee).


This is a good example:

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Well it depends, if you are in class and trying to learn being relaxed may make your mind wander off and you will miss the half your lecture.

I think where ever you are good posture with some relaxation to you(don't be a stiff board) is best. Since you are at a desk there are only really 3 things you can show that say confidence.

1. Shoulders- If you are sitting at a desk keep your shoulders wide, keep your posture good, and keep your head high.

2. Head- Chin up, don't look down, people who look down are usually submissive and confident people while humble aren't submissive in nature.

3. Hands & Arms- I don't agree with putting your hands on your knees if you are at a desk. Why would you be putting your hands on your knees when you take notes? Or why would you want to hide your hands on your knees? It would look like your sheltering yourself behind the desk. You won't look confident, extend your arms across the desk and take up space. An alpha trait is a large amount of territory. People who own more "territory" naturally look more "alpha", so your arms should be extended a little more. Your hands should be loose, and relaxed. You could even put your hands in the steeple which is a confident gesture(prayer hands), or you can thread them through each other with your elbows about shoulder width apart.

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In my opinion:
Leaned back, upright- chest comfortably out, shoulder blades pulled back
Leg crossing permitted.
Head upright, strong eye contact with people speaking.
I like to make sure my hands are shown, resting with your elbow looks alpha to me.

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Personally migster, I think you need to worry less about individual situations like this and just get more into the mindset. If you're sat there thinking "keep my back straight, keep my legs at a certain angle, arms in a certain position with my hands pointing to such and such", then you're not being alpha.

Body language isn't an EXACT science. People can come across as confident in a number of ways. Alpha is just that - being confident and comfortable in yourself. If you're sat on a desk worrying about whether you look alpha or not, you're probably not alpha.

If you're sat at a desk not really caring whether people think you look alpha or not, then you probably are alpha, and people will pick up on the fact.

PLEASE, PLEASE Don't go around giving people advice about body language if you don't know anything, you will teach people horrible horrible info.

With body language how you stand, sit, walk, is how you feel. So if you stand confident you feel confident. If you sit confident you feel confident. However if you sit anxious, you will be anxious. There have been multiple studies on this and many have proven that body language is 2 ways. So yes learning good posture is very important to confidence. If you end up with any good confidence coach you will hear them make sure you straighten your body language to start.

Body language is an exact science, you can always tell how someone feels or how they feel about themselves. Everything is written on you, from your head to your toes everything means something. Your facial expression to your stance, how you hold your head to how your breathing. How your torso is leaning to how you are standing. If you don't know a lot it may feel that way, but it is pretty spot on, I am rarely and I do mean rarely off when it comes to body language. So rarely off that I'm scary and annoying to have at a poker table.

I will however agree that you don't want to just have the body language, you do need the mindset as well. That is a very important part of life, not just PUA. If you don't have a confident mindset then you won't ever gain true confidence. However if you don't gain the proper body language you will never truly feel confident.

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I haven't said that body language is not important. But the opening poster didn't ask how to look more confident in his body language, did he?

"what are some tips to project alphaness while sitting".

My argument is that to project alphaness, you need to be in an alpha frame of mind. If you're confident, calm and relaxed, you'll appear confident, calm and relaxed. If you're nervous, unsure of yourself and fidgety, then you'll appear nervous, unsure and fidgety.

Yeah, you can worry about exact things if you want, and if you say that it is an exact science, then OK, I'll bow down to your unhorrible advice. But personally, for me, if I'm sitting somewhere, then I'm not thinking "right my arms should be here, my neck should be tilted slightly this way" and all that. I'm sitting there thinking that I'm the dog's bollocks. That's it. Body language falls into place by itself.

That's alpha body language, in my opinion, not sitting there worrying about whether I'm sat how some guy on the internet told me to sit.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that whilst his body language is a problem here, the real problem is a mental one. You're going to try and solve it by saying he should sit in a certain way. And yeah, then he might well think he looks better and that might fill himwith confidence. Alternatively, he might be that worried about whether he's doing your advice "right" that he still doesn't look that confident anyway. Whereas if he sits down on the desk next time and knows he's the dogs bollocks, knows deep down that he looks great, indeed IS great, then his hands aren't going to be causing him any problems.

We project ourselves through our body language? Through eye sight no? What is in eye sight? Body Language.

Personally you don't have to, he does, so why don't we give him good advice? All of our body language is an imprint of behavior we witnessed. If we witness bad behaviors we gain them. So while some people don't need to be told to straighten their body language others half to consciously do it until it becomes habit.

You missed my whole point, there have been multiple studies proving how we feel can be changed by simply changing our body language. So if we act anxious and fidgety it's not that we look anxious it is that we are anxious or we begin to feel anxious. If you however want to feel confident then you need to learn to carry good body language. You need to stand confident to feel confident, how can you look confident if you don't know what it looks like? So what happens when you straighten your body language? We feel CONFIDENT, it has nothing to do with them doing it right, it is about how doing it right makes you feel confident. So there is no way to avoid it.

Here: Go grab a pencil and bite on it for 30 seconds but while you do it I want you to think of a death or a sad moment, try and become sad. You will have a very hard time doing so.

I am sorry I won't sit by while you give horrible advice. You come on and say things but you disqualify things that have to be done in order to actual become confident. Don't do that.

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Fair enough, I'll accept what you're saying. Good body language can build up your confidence.

However, I still stand by the point I made. The opening poster hasn't said that he's a complete newbie introvert who has no idea about body language and walks around hunched over, staring at the ground. He's said that he knows to take up lots of space, so clearly knows one or two basics, and has only said that he has a slight problem with his hands whilst sitting at a desk. I still stand by the point that if you sort out your inner game and are fully content with yourself, your body language sorts itself out. However, if people want to give him advice on what to do with his hands, then yeah, fine, it'll work and he can become more comfortable that way too. But I don't agree that you need to consciously change your body language in order to become confident, I believe you can become confident and content with yourself through other means, and your body language will fall into place, especially if you've already got some basics, as the opening poster has. I just don't think it's realistic to know minute details about every scenario of possible body language. I'd rather know the basics - as the opening poster does - and then let my attitude do the rest. Which is the only point I've made throughout.

Again I say if changing your body language makes you feel confident, it is the first step to becoming confident. If you go read any confidence book, or talk to any confidence coach they have you straighten your body language before you even begin. There is a reason for that, your body language is very important. Body language is 2 ways, meaning not only do we act how we feel, but how we act we feel. You keep ignoring this comment. This isn't something I made up, several studies one was at University of Michigan.

If he is thinking about his body language he isn't confident in it. If he is worried about what he is projecting he certainly doesn't have good body language. People who know what to do as far as body language don't need to ask. He doesn't seem to follow the basics if he is asking? Otherwise why ask.

He came to a body language section and asked, if he was thinking inner game he would have went to the inner game section, hopefully that simplifies it for you.

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Hey everybody thanks for all the helpful replies. I might've used some wrong words and failed to clarify what I meant by projecting alphaness. I just wanted to know some good proper sitting postures because I am not a natural on it. ( I used to slouch when I was young due to low self-esteem but thankfully I have improved it dramatically ) My inner-game is also improving as a result of intense reading and practice . I actually noticed some great results when following most of the advises on here. Some girls even opened me in class and the HB9 who tried making me jealous actually came back and sat beside me due to this You guys have been really helpful every step of the way. I can't thank you all well enough for having the time to respond.