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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:51 am 
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I thought Mystery asks for kisses... So how is it AFC?


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Mystery's technique for initiating kissing through DHV and reversing the frame is not "asking for kisses" per se. If your confused about this I'm concerned as to your understanding of simple game.


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Mystery's technique for initiating kissing through DHV and reversing the frame is not "asking for kisses" per se. If your confused about this I'm concerned as to your understanding of simple game.
I don't completely understand simple game. That's why I'm asking questions.


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I think the right play here is a re-frame. Next time she brings up the kiss thing, turn it right back and put her on the spot. Don't let her turn it into a shit-test by keeping it up until the last minute when you try to hook up with her.

I would tell her something like "Listen, you keep bringing up me kissing you. I just offered a friendly goodbye peck, I'm starting to think you're the one trying to snag me. I'm watching you". Keep it up with typical funny banter as you would any other scenario, and when/if you get shit-tested with a bullshit question like "so do you like me" or "where do you think this is going", just dodge it and re-frame her again, putting the onus on her for trying to "seduce you".

I think using humour to reverse the situation is golden, and she will eat it up. In the back of her mind, she'll think "maybe I took it too far?". I mean she obviously likes you, so I'm certain there will be doubts in her mind that you're on to her games.

You start the games and make girls play by your rules, not hers. If you keep going for it and putting the power into her hands to say no, best case scenario is you end up being the whipped bull in a relationship


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Thanks for all the advice fellas! The last reply in particular was extremely useful!

We've continued to text back & forth a fair bit, but I haven't actually seen her for almost a week now. She's possibly coming over for a French film night this Friday. I'm English & she's Italian but we both live in France. She's trying to learn the language whereas I'm already fluent, so hopefully watching these films will both add a bit of "culture" to the proceedings, and also help her to learn the language at the same time!

Thanks again for the feedback!


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wait what? never ask for a kiss? i thought in mystery method that what was you're supposed to do? :?
You go for the kiss, but you definetly dont ask for it :)
no no, like ask 'do you want to kiss me?" after enough kinoing etc of course
you answered yourself here"do you want to kiss me?"...

correct,you ask HER if SHE wants to kiss YOU!
not asking if YOU can kiss HER!
got it?
i'm sure you did.

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man i think shud move on, not because u fucked up ( u did mess up on asking for kissing) but because she is insecure about you. she wants to but is not sure and FOR ME half assness is a sign that she wont totally commit. think of it as if im getting a number, if she hesitates to gimmie a number but gives it to me, she ll most lkley flake, if she asks for my number.... welll hey great chance she will def respond. same thing as in relationships. if she is iffy and thinks, " man idk if want this guy or not, how many girls have u banged, etc etc" and lets say u guys start dating (i feel that u have an emotional investment in her assuming by wat u r writing, correct tme if im wrong), then someone else comes along she could easily leave you....


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man i think shud move on, not because u fucked up ( u did mess up on asking for kissing) but because she is insecure about you. she wants to but is not sure and FOR ME half assness is a sign that she wont totally commit. think of it as if im getting a number, if she hesitates to gimmie a number but gives it to me, she ll most lkley flake, if she asks for my number.... welll hey great chance she will def respond. same thing as in relationships. if she is iffy and thinks, " man idk if want this guy or not, how many girls have u banged, etc etc" and lets say u guys start dating (i feel that u have an emotional investment in her assuming by wat u r writing, correct tme if im wrong), then someone else comes along she could easily leave you....
I don't think he should give up so easily. There is truth in your words about investment, but if you invest something, you should do your best to see it through and you can't win if you fold ;) I think the op knows how much he can get invested emotionally.

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