Ok so im new here, this is my first post, go easy on me! That make me sound gay?

Anyway, heres the beef. Met a girl, she has some serious fire! I mean this girl is feisty, fun to be with, and ive decided i want to make this official, im going to give up game for a while and relax with a nice hot girl!

Shes DEFINATELY attracted to me. I go out and shes addicted to me.

Problems are as follows...

1. I suck. Im beginning to lose control and become the 'nice guy' or 'love sick puppy' type. I consciously keep making the effort to pull myself back but i dont know how long for!

2. As a result of problem 1 im beginning to slip, BEGINNING, i can still rectify this if i put work in, shes possibly seeing me tomorrow where i plan to alpha it up a little, and KINO KINO KINO!

3. I guess im too scared too tell her how i feel directly and fear that this would send all my work on status and game down the drain and set me back to square one with her but this time as an AFC.

So heres the questions...

1. How do i resolve these issues?
2. How do i ask her a) how she feels? and b) to make it an official relationship?

Any help would be MUCH appreciated, ive got til next wednesday when im taking her out for a 'suprise' to plan everything!

Most important focus being on how to make it official!

Cheers in advance!

dont reveal your feelings yet, this is where most people make mistakes,
keep her guessing, keep being playful, let her come to you, play it cool. kino is good let things happen from there, i bet you havent even kissed her yet have you? if not let the kino build up to that, reveal your feelings later like several days after a kiss close, and when you do that just keep it simple, maybe acknowledge that you like each other, dont come on too strong too fast, for instance dont tell her you love her till you really know her, i mean really know her. like you have known her for months.

and dont say will you be my girlfriend this is the lamest shit one can say, say something like "so i guess this means your mine" take it slow with her, cause if you go too fast then you have nothing to look forward to.


i hope i helped

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Skittlepimp

ya, you dont want to reveal anything. you want her to come to you. Cocky-funny is a tactic im a big fan of, so i would just be confident, dont over-do the kino, but make yourself desirable. display qualities she will find attractive, be polite yet confident, fit but not buff, jokingly arrogant yet still able to be sensitive.

good luck,

PB

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Cheers for the advice and quick replies! Yeah i have kissed her, isolated her and gone for full make out, shes 100% attracted to me, i just think i enjoy her a little too much!

Ive isolated some things i need to stop doing when talking to her, subtle things like phrasing of questions and putting too much in texts.

Its back to basics, i need to re-attract this girl and get some balls!

dude there is nothing to reattract, she already likes you, just take things slow so you dont get buyers remorse.

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Skittlepimp

There are a few details that are missing from your post for me to really give you direct advice.

#1 important thing. Keep your frame. Do not let her start to order you around. No matter how 'comfortable' she is, she stills needs to ask you to do something and also say please and thank you.

To get a commintment, tell her you have decided not to date any other girls for now. Do not ask her to be your girlfriend. When you tell her that you have decided to not date other girls, you can gauge her reaction on whether it is going to mean a relationship or not.

How many times have you hung out? How long of a time frame has it been?

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Wow thats gold about telling her im not dating any other girls!

Its the framing i think is really beginning to slip, but that'll be down to me battling my AFC way of doing things against my new PUA way of doing things, we're creatures of habit its default human nature to do that, its my job to override this and replace it all with PUA methods of doing things.

We've known each other through a friend for about 1-2 months max, hang out practically every thursday all night at the same bars and clubs we go to, outside of that we dont get much chance to see each other because of work and university etc, but if we didnt have those commitments we'd hang out ALOT more.

Again thanks for the advice this is really good!

One thing to tell you.

Don't ever reveal shit to a fuckin' girl.

You want her, right? Well, mess with her and talk. Test her, see if she's interested. Game her tight until you can get in her jeans. Shit.

You should at least know how to frame and how to go from one stage to another.

Just practice. If you want her to be official, keep gaming until you can get to C2.

Shit.

'Beware of one-itis' is all I have to say here. And don't be needy.

I admit I still do get one-itis sometimes, and it always boosts my game immensely with everyone but the one-itis. So just remember to always play solid game on new girls even if you are dating her, it helps you keep in control (you KNOW you have options with women, it shows and she will pick it up unless she's a complete idiot).

I've made some serious changes and im keeping my frame!

As for the date, thats potentially tomorrow if i decide to go ahead with it (i have a serious amount of uni work to do!)

I'll let you know how it all goes down!

Sound advice guys!

Do not forget the 'for now' part.


"I have decided to not date any other women for now."

You have all the choices. It is not hers.

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The Final Chapter/Conclusion.

I lost.

I guess i took far too much of a bigger dip in the middle of this with loss of frame control and hooking her in.

However, despite this being a huge blow to me, im going out regardless, im going to have a good time and im going to meet new, better women.

Its all a learning experience, i havent got too long on this earth, so many thanks for the information contributed, it really filled in some blanks and i now know what to do for next time.

As for now. ITS GAME ON!!

Unlucky if you liked her. But now you can go out and play the game - you never know you might get another chance with her.

I think this illustrates one of the most important aspects of pick-up:
THE FRAME

It's my #1 lesson i've learnt and consciously think about when talking to girls, because at the end of the day I'm not talking to them to just-be-friends.

PB

Yeah this whole thing has really put the frame aspect into perspective for me now, especially with something i did a few months back in my very beginner PUA days;

Back in my AFC days i met an amazing girl, my ideal girl, beautiful, smart, liked EVERYTHING i liked, we just clicked as completely compatible, then she screwed me over after several months and we didnt speak for about two years, then a mutual friend told me that she was taking her out to the same club i would be gaming at that night as she would be moving away soon. I spent the day cramming all my pua knowledge, made sure all my friends were there who were available to social proof myself and i arrived at the club and acted like i owned the place.

I greeted her with a simple "Oh well look what the cat dragged in!" complete with cheeky smile whilst leaning against the bar surrounded by my friends some of which were female. The end result of the night was her litterally begging me to sit and talk with her and begging for me to hold her hand. That night made me feel so good about myself because i conquered the one thing that had made me feel absolutely terrible over those 2 years.

And now with this, ive learnt a very important lesson! I love PUA! Every mistake is a learning experience about myself and others.

Cheers for your help guys! I'll be out gaming harder than ever as soon as im over my tonsillitis at the moment!

Remember that to keep frame in a relationship, never give more of yourself than she is willing to.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)