I dated this one girl for about 9 months (June 2010-March 2011). She was extremely attractive. She was an amateur alt model (like a suicide girl). She had blue/black hair. Her septum, libret, and angle bite (on top) piercings. I broke up with her because I was extremely frustrated in the relationship and a lot of other things. She also had a kid and doing the dad thing was really difficult for me at the time. I moved to another city in May 2011 which was 3 hours away. I stayed there for about 6 months. I planned on moving back and decided to send her a facebook message. I asked her how she was doing and stuff. She messaged me back saying that she was fine and that it was good to hear from me again. She said her kid still talked about me daily. Asking when I was going to come home ect (Her kid was 1 1/2 when I met him. He just turned 3 last month).

So I moved back and started hanging out with her. She has had a boyfriend for about the last 8 months. Anyway this is how it worked.

At first time she wasn't comfortable hanging at her house (she lives with her parents) . I did want to see her kid (I actually really started missing him while I was in another city) so we decided that I'd pick her up and we'd head to burger king because it had a play place for the kid. As the kid played I talked to her she seemed kinda distant and her energy levels seemed kinda low, but I just kept teasing her and she started lightening up and shooting me IOI's. When we were driving back to her house her body language opened up to me so I knew I was doing okay.

The next 2-3 times I hung out with her I was at her house. Playing with her kid ect. I mentioned I started learning pick up and she became really interested so I started teaching her a little bit about the Mystery Method. I think it was the third time I hung out with her I looked into her eyes and said "that's all I have to do is start Kino escalating with you and you're totally mine" and she looked back and said "no, there's no way. I have a boyfriend and he's awesome". From that point I really didn't have any Kino with her at all. So I just changed the subject and went right back to pick-up. As I was talking to her, I had a notebook on my lap that I was drawing stuff and writing stuff. I poked her as I talked, she poked me back (IOI), I poked her again, she poked me back. Then I said "You wanna go?!" and she was like "I'll totally take you out!" so we started wrestling around a little bit. After that I went back to my notebook, then wrestled with her, then notebook then I went home. Her kid really hated it when I went home. He would either get really angry or seem really depressed. He would say I should stay forever ect.

The 2 times I hung out with her it was mainly tickling and playing with her kid. I kinda started getting into the soul gazing techniques and started learning about how when peoples eyes dilate it means they're feeling strong positive feelings ect. So while I was hanging out with her. Sometimes I would just stare deep into her eyes and not say anything. She knows I study NLP and hypnosis so she would ask me "what are you doing" and finally I just told her "Have you ever heard of David Deida? He talks a lot of masculine and feminine energy. Your eyes are the windows to your soul and when I stare into them were transferring our energy back and forth. Your feminine energy feels good. It makes me feel fulfilled in a way as well" After I said that she had no problem just starring into my eyes for any period of time. I think in all I spent 3 different occasions that night just starring into her eyes for about 5 minutes at a time.

The next time I hung out with her I started doing the triangular kiss gaze on her. She didn't shoot my any IOD's so I figured it would be good to go in for the kiss. We were wrestling around and she poked me in the eye. I (jokingly) started crying in pain and agony. I told her she needed to kiss my eye so it could heal. She showed some slight resistance but I think the 3rd time I told her to kiss my eye she did. Later on in the night we were wrestling again and I bumped one of her new piercings on her lower lip. She say it actually hurt really bad so I told her I would kiss it and make it better. So I went in and kissed her piecing, she said it didn't help so I did it 2-3x and she said it felt better. At the end of the night I went to go in for the full kiss close but she resisted. It was like 4am I was tired and I didn't feel like trying to progress any further so I went home.

The next time I hung out with her same as the other post except when it got really late we were cuddling and she fell asleep on me. Her light was still on and I couldn't pass out. So I woke her up and asked her if she wanted me to stay, she originally said yes, but then I asked if she was sure (dumb fucking move) and she said I should go home.

So I learned that next time I hung out with her I would just go shut off the light.

The next time I hung out with her I was able to kiss close her. Literally the next thing I knew after kiss closing her we were making out. I pulled the back of her hair down (like in evolution phase shift) and this immensely turned her on. I then stuck my hand in her pants and started fingering her. From there her pants were off. After fingering her for some time she asked if I wanted to have sex. I told her no because I don't have sex with people unless I'm in a relationship with them (and she has a boyfriend). So I just kept fingering her, then I ate her out. Then we cuddled and fell asleep.

The next time I hung out with her same as before. Except when I kinda gave into sex. When I went to go put the condom on I was on top of her. I didn't stick my dick in her right away. I just build up tension by having my cock right in front of her pussy and kinda playing with her clit with my cock a little bit, then maybe sticking the head of my dick in her then pulling it out. I kept up with teasing with verbal teasing as well for about 5 minutes. Then out of nowhere I just rammed my whole cock inside of her as far as I could. Her eyes rolled into the back of her head, she grasped the sheets, and I never saw her in so much pleasure before. The best way I could describe it was like I just penetrated her with the universe. from there I just fucked her like I always did. Some dominance mixed with emotions. After words we cuddled and talked for a little bit. I could tell the sex made me extremely attached to her (which was what I was afraid of). (I had been in this situation with a previous ex and it left me pretty scared). I ended up telling her I still loved her and she said she still loved me too.

After I left that day she started not returning my messages as fast and it seemed kinda different. (I normally sent her an email about every 3 days and she normally sent me a massage back that day). She sent me a message back after a couple of days (she said she wanted to talk about things), then didn't respond to one of my messages completely. I called her and we hung out last night. She seemed really fidgety and stressed. She wouldn't Kino with me at all. Finally I asked her what she wanted to talk about. She said she wasn't comfortable with our friendship anymore. She said she has feelings for me, but she thought things with her boyfriend were going really bad, but everything is actually going well good now and she feels really bad about everything. I told her that it was fine and I saw it coming. I told her I thought it would be better that if we were friends anyway. I told her that I thought it over and that I didn't want to date her long termly anyway so it worked out for the best. She asked why I didn't want to date her and I told her it didn't matter because she wanted to stay with her boyfriend. I told her I still wanted to be friends and hang out with her. I told her I definitely didn't want to have sex with her anymore, I kinda explained that the sex made me really attached to her and It was wasn't good within the situation. This seemed to relieve her quite a bit. She energy levels rose and she stopped fidgeting. After words she wanted me to head home. I gave her a hug and it was really a long hug. We hugged for about 2 minutes.

The weirdest thing is that I didn't feel rejected at all. For the first time in my life I actually felt more confident, relieved, and I feel like it rooted me into my individuality more. I'm not sure how to say it but I didn't feel any negative emotions over the whole thing. I fully expected to feel completely destroyed. I'm still trying to figure that whole part out. If anyone has any ideas let me know. It be appreciated.

Your playing a dangerous game, not only with your own emotions (since she's an ex girlfriend) but the fact she has a kid and a boyfriend.

Now all this has happened too, I'd advise getting away from it all.

What are you to gain from staying in the situation? Do you want to be her booty call and nothing else (which you are at the moment - can you deal with that after being her boyfriend) or do you want to be her boyfriend and the father figure to her child?

Work out what you want then figure a way to achieve it.

Sticks,

It originally started out that I wanted to get her back and push her boyfriend out of the relationship and be her boyfriend again. I didn't add complete detail to everything. When I broke up with her I really didn't like kids at all. Her and her kid had lived with me and my grandpa at my grandpa's house until my grandfather passed away. I broke up with her the day before he passed away. After my grandpa died I moved away. When I was gone and dealing with the grief I really started missing her kid, I started to develope a much deeper appreciation for children.

So my plan was to date her again and be the father figure to her kid. After I had sex with her though and I got super attached. A couple of days after that I became less attached again and from there I kinda figured it would be best to just be friends with her. So when she talked to me after words and said she felt bad and things were going okay with her boyfriend. Then we mutually agreed to just be friends.

What I want to happen now (regardless of her boyfriend situation) is just be friends with her, hangout with her and her kid. He does love me and look up to me so I think that's the best bet. I really have no desire to have sex with her again.

She is damaged goods. Move on.

Why do you want to hang out with her?

Trust me, right now I'm fresh out of a relationship with a girl who I'm still madly in love with her.

But hanging out with her and seeing her happy with someone else isn't going to help me one bit.

Sam

I want to hangout with her because I enjoy her company (and her child's). Just not enough to the point where I want to be in a LTR with her or have sex with her. I don't actually think I'm in romantic love with her. When she said she loved her boyfriend and stuff I was just totally cool with it. I didn't feel any negative emotions or energy from it. Some how it made me feel more confident and more rooted into my reality.

For instance last night. She posted a picture she drew of her an her boyfriend (she's an amazing artist) on facebook saying how much she loves him. To me it felt like this. Imagine someone shooting a cannon of potential heartbreak/depression energy at you, as it comes near you, you feel it hit your shield of positive energy and your shield deflects it. I felt the initial hit of feeling something negative, but then it just deflected. Which in return I think it made me for confident in my shield.

I'm not saying I don't feel emotions either. I feel a wide range of positive emotions and sometimes very strongly. It's just negative emotions just don't seem to stick to me anymore. They don't become a static thought process anymore. It's something really new for me and I don't quite understand it.

I think the main of it is I was used to feeling rejection (emotionally) from people and I think I made rejection feel like a static process. Like if a girl did reject me then I should automatically feel rejected and have it really effect me.

If that's the case, then if her bf finds out (which he should if she loves him that much) be prepared to not be able to see her ever again - if that's what you wanted you really shouldn't of kissed her ect.

If he doesn't find out then you probably should be looking elsewhere for information on how to be friends.

Sam