I'm with Chief, where the hell did you find the motivation to sleep with so many women and why the hell did you keep counting. I was barely keeping track up until ten, and after that I stopped caring all together. It's not like you bring a girl home and fuck her for the sake of adding a notch to your belt. You do it because it is exciting and you enjoy sleeping with beautiful women.

If you no longer do it for that reason it would be super easy to lay 1000 women if you are an average looking guy, just fuck the fat, the ugly, the desperate, the sick, the dying, the old etc.

I mean seriously guys, stop counting how many girls you sleep with, if that's the reason you are seeking pick up guidance I suggest you seek mental help instead!

I am all for teaching guys to meet and lay more women, but I do it to enhance their personal life experience, not for their bragging rights.

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I am certain time will tell and the truth will set me free. I am also going to go at my own pace. I will not be dictated into anything. Especially from someone insulting me. I find a lot of people are just reading my posts and looking for things to pick apart and demanding explanations as to why it isn't clear enough for them. I find the nit pickers are not even reading between the lines more so just trying to find anything they can to dis-credit me. I don't wish to debate things. I am not even going to bother explaining any of my thoughts on a topic if it is brought up to me in a disrespectful or condescending manner.

Would you?


I thought this was a forum for people to discuss picking up women. I didn't realize it was a battle of ego's. I say WHO CARES if you believe me or not or the rest of the PUA regulars. It really doesn't matter! I know what I know and nobody can take that away from me.

You have to be able to see through my eyes. Any doubters to me is just plain ignorance. I am not lying about my numbers. I do have the vast experience. I never have to think of a response to a question. Just because it's not congruent to whatever, it doesn't matter. Its a plain truth. It just comes out! And I know it's right, because it's already happened. ( it's what I know and from my experience, it worked for me)


The battles are getting tired though. If you go through any of the post where they started. You will see that a majority is taken out of context and just plain nit picking. It really is pointless. And a lot of miss-interpretation. If I am giving advice it is directed to the person whom is asking. I shouldn't have to explain in that post ( what other people reading will want to know or challenge)

The only thing I am curious about is whether or not my advice is being received well. I would be interested in poll. A suggestion from the King nit picker--Kasabi

He claims everyone here is laughing at me and thinks I am a joke. I would be curious to see what everyone else thinks. Perhaps a poll is in order. Lets see how many people think I am either "legit/not legit"

I will make the wager, if the majority thinks I am legit, I ask that I no longer be harassed and have my posts picked apart, just simply let me be. If the majority votes that I am not legit. I will cease to write in this forum.

I hope that this does not become a popularity war, and have any favoritism just in an attempt to get rid of me. I will do as I say as long as it is an honest poll.

The shame of it all is now because of all the nit-picking and bickering, a majority of the questions are now being sent to me through Private Messages, because people don't want to deal with all the BS. So a lot of my advice is now only going to few rather then all.

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This is why I am here. I can't change my past, but I can help others.


Read the thread, if you can't see my motives, you never will.

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The way I look at it is like this - the more data you have about what your doing the better. I mean were writing field reports on here why not keep a tally of everything else. Kiss closes, #closes, lays - when all of those are happening. Graph it. You cant get enough data. That way if you look at your graph and it starts slipping, you will know and maybe can attribute it to something instead of just a feeling of more rejections lately. If your doing all of this one thing that you will know is the total number of everything you slept with. Granted, It doesnt sound like sexaddict did this but I want to point out the value of data and tracking progress.

To me he didnt come off like he was bragging or egotistical about any of this but rather that he happened to track his number roughly. Hell haha i mean its a ballpark figure for christ sake why is everyone attacking his character.

It seems like a lot of people an emotional issue with this guy having more success then them to be honest. There are so many more people on seduction forums that I think deserve to have their credibility and character cracked at than SexAddict. I read most of this thread and he has been trying to genuinely help people from the get go. He has already given me some advice in the form of a PM.

SexAddict - Dont consider him bragging anymore than anyone posting a lay report up here. He has simply posted a rough copy of his data - like everyone else does on this forum.


Anyway, if you can see the value of actually knowing your data and tracking it, i highly recommend it. It is something that Tony Robbins repeatedly preaches in his work that "If your wanting to make progress in anything in life, it is best to keep track of your results. That way, if your not getting the results you want, you can alter your approach." - Rough quote from him.

Hope this post helps some people

The reason I and others count how many women we had is because it feeds our ego.

In my view 800 is easy , because just like seduction itself it's all about the mindset.

Everyone has it's own reasons for joining the community ( threesomes , relationships and lifestyle) and some use the knowledge they gather to their benefit.

I have read almost all posts in this thread and I tend to agree with almost anything SexAddict911 has posted , he's knowledge is valuable and this brings me to the point I am trying to make.

Just like SexAddict911 , I am trying to give something back to this community and share my experience and knowledge so all of you can learn and contribute. From the responses I received in my lay reports and the ones I've read in this thread I can honestly say that the majority of users here are either "trolls" or helpless teens asking the wrong questions.

If my post has offended anyone I am glad.

* I do not agree with your take on 10's and all this "make her seek attention". I have tried the concept and it "works" , but the reason I said "works" is because is less efficient.

It is true almost all men want the 10 ; some approach her and some don't. Those who do will either run "game" or ask if she has a boyfriend and all of them get rejected.

I have fucked many beautiful women and I have never done this "make her seek attention from you"... how do I do it ?

You can read my lay reports or if you don't I'll try to explain here.

Every word I speak comes from a position of power. I rarely get shit tested and she knows that I mean because the way I say it. Let me give you an example.

If I see a perfect 10 , I go in like a bullet and speak my mind to her in a respectful manner and if the words match the imagine she will be receptive.

Here is something I want to share with all of you :

I RARELY GET REJECTED BUT WHEN I DO THE WOMEN ENDS UP APOLOGIZING TO ME.

You don't need to play "attention" games in order to get 10's.

I agree with what you are saying, about not needing to play the attention games, but you are speaking from an experienced mind, you seem to have a lot of confidence. Most on here do not and are not capable of projecting as you do. I have found the "attention" game to work in the past. I have also suggested it to less confident friends and it has worked for them in regards to interacting with the woman that they had way too much anxiety to approach in the first place.

It's all about getting their foot in the door, so they can learn from their own experiences. Life has no better teacher then "personal experience".

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I now understand what you're trying to do but in a way you are encouraging them to avoid Approach Anxiety.

The only way to overcome you fears is to face them dead on , yet everyone has their own way of dealing with problems.

@ everybody,

Picking up women and fucking them, is not complicated it is very simple, once you figure it out.... second unfortunately most methods are reverse engineering of what naturals do and have been doing for YEARS before there was a community....As much as i hate mm, it is design for hb9 and 10s, the other methoods 60 etc... could work with hb 10 but would work better 6-8...

@ sexaddict

dude i told you to read a bunch of material of the pick up community so you know what already is out there and where you are different... You told, me "you do not want to be influence" the problem is most of these guys are clueless so if what you do natural, is similar to any material out there they are gonna think you are not legit... the last response you made sounds like mystery method(but in your defense in my own experience with hb 9-10 sometimes you got a ignore them a bit) is just common sense. Finally, if you are successful, you will have nay sayers, haters etc... that comes with success...As i said do lay and field reports(i hate doing them because is like bragging, but at least they know)

@ warped mindless

I love this dude, but he thinks nobody is legit, i don't know why? specially since sleeping with women is SIMPLE, EASY.

@kasabi,

dude stop bullying people, i don't get you, make your own threat, a lot of shit you say is weak in my eyes but i do not high jack your post... Bullying is a sign of weakness... with all due respect.here is one of many examples:

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@ slywalker the married pua and all the old school guys here,

Before, questioning this dude make an effort and read the whole threat he already explain the stuff 50 times..


Kasabi vs sexaddict settlement: very simple this is what you guys can do, and whoever question me, i am willing to jump in. since is easy to talk shit,hit and run:

Step 1: step up a google voice account or pof account

step 2: meet a girl via pof,facebook,myspace or in the field


step 3: get the girl to send pics


step 4: after the meeting you will text or email to fuck(you will not call her at all, unless at the front of the house or on the way)

step 5: post the convo in the lay report....



here is a sample:

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If you have read or watched the mystery method or the gunwitch method, what one do you prefer?

When you go out, are you seeking for their numbers or are you just taking them back to your home immediately?

What is wrong with bragging. As long as it done with charm. The manly world is huge, there are cliques. For example blue collar, and white collar workers have their own rituals for male bonding, and ball busting.

Bragging is just another form of ball busting conversation. If someone is happy with who they are, it does not matter what sexaddict is saying. Just enjoy this thread. If someone braggs it is an exciting story.

This thread is already over 50 thousand words and people are still getting worked up about the tally count (whis is just one line). Simple if u feel offended by the boast, make ur own claims and see if u can make it as entertaining.

Sex addict is having fun on this thread. He has no motivation to read PUA stuff, he is already happy with his sex life.

If I may quote Arnold Swcharznegger, "once the wolf is on the top of the mountain every other wolf wants his crown".

Being compettitive is just a very natural alpha male desire. Critics will always find neediness in everything. Compettitiveness is just another motivational tool.

Bill Gates was an ALPHA MALE with women - read his biography.

PUA community is anti-compettitive because it was started by BETA MALES, being inspried by ALPHA males. Now when a natural ALPHA male is on this site, its his attitude that is interesting.

The community would benefit from healthy compettiveness. Thats my opinion, although many would disagree.

I personally like qualified arrogance. Its the unqualified arrogance that I do not like.

To the critics I only ask one thing, please make ur comments at least entertaining.

Apologies if I have digressed from the thread.

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Not discouraging them, just showing them other ways. Hoping to build confidence in a productive manner. The more experience one gets with certain women, the better they will feel about future approaches. It's not a race!

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All I can say is that I PM'd SA my issue and he responded with feed back that was pragmatic, thoughtful, empathetic and put my mind at ease.

There is a genuine ethic in his wanting to help us in our lives. We are on here because we need some help (or are willing to give it as well) understanding female psychology. For one, if you don't find him credible, no need to revisit this thread. I'm impressed by the level of activity on this board and there are always great topics to while your time away on obviously.

I never thanked you for the help, SA. So, thanks!

How much time do you need? Your thread is 24 pages long now and all you've been able to tell us is that you use clubs as an exercise track, ignore hot girls but stare at them, and when you open up, you tuck your balls between your legs and pretend your a gay massage boy asking them for fashion advice. . . then you LOL by yourself?

Oh how I'd love to meet you in person. I am done with you kid. You're a complete waste of time. I can't believe it took me this long to see how much of a fool you truly are. Since you seem to be doing nothing but repeating your same old drivel. I chose not to participate in your silly little game anymore. This is the last time i respond to your pathetic attempts to get a rise out of me.

GOD LUCK WITH THAT!! LOL.

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@jackal

The characteristics of the alpha human male is inseparable with the outcome of exercising these characteristics. Simply put . . . if you are an alpha male, you habitually express leadership qualities. And because you exude leadership qualities, you are in fact, a leader of men. Thus, there is no such thing (in real life) as the "alpha male register boy", "alpha male clothes folder at the mall", or an "alpha male massage therapist". All of this is an oxymoron and an impossibility. If you are 'alpha', by the definition of the word, you are in a leadership position.

On the hand, the usage of "Alpha male" in the pu community is an ignorant bastardization of a scientific terminology and a shameless marketing by association. Ignoring the actual definition of 'alpha male', the buffoons (or the baboons) of our community insist on describing various characteristics of zoo animals for us to model in order to get laid. How do you even begin comparing Bill Gates with the OP? My God . . .

@Stelar
Exactly. ^This is what it comes down to. You don't go to a job interview for an executive position and talk about how you'll be happy to make coffee. Even the work manuals for restaurant chains enforce the importance of equalizing power with customers. You don't hit up a girl and actively remove your male power by ASKING ADVICE for shoes or make up. You don't ignore a 10 thinking she'll hop on you. All sounds plausible on paper but this is simply not the way the World works. And physical appearance is a less reliable metric than to just chat up a girl to see how she interacts.

@skills,
Why not? Please question my shit. Make a statement, offer a reason, and have a discussion. This forum is filled with so much BS due to a relaxed idea that anything will work for somebody. If things were this way, nobody would be here in the first place.

As to the 'challenge'. Let's phrase it, "A fun night out". You guys pick a guy in Boston or in NYC depending on the time and I'll show him a fun night out. (I've done this once before I've said I'd never do it again but what the hell. . . it looks like spring around here already). . . Where does the addict live?