So I used to be a lame guy and fat and didn't pursue women because I didn't feel able to.

Now I'm fairly all around awesome and I'm doing well with getting numbers and getting dates. But because of my lack of experience, I'm pretty bad at physically escalating except when I'm drinking. When I'm drinking, it all comes together pretty naturally, I don't know why. But it's like "ok now I'll put my hands on her hips, now I'll kiss her, now I'll casually suggest we leave".

But anyway, I'm not very experienced, especially in the sober variety and this leads to last night.

I had a second date with this girl I started to see HB8. First date went well, but very light kino. It was just coffee and walking down by the lake.

Second date is dinner. During dinner we're both having a good time and we're chatting it up nice, no awkwardness or silences, nice conversation.

After dinner when we leave I suggest we come back to my place to watch a movie. She agrees and we come up to my place which is just a block or two away from the restaurant.

Then we get in, I ask her if she wants anything to drink, she says she's alright. So I grab myself some water, despite wanting to grab an alcoholic drink =P

She has 0 opinion on what movie to watch and basically wants me to pick, so I pick something that I'll like to see and we're sitting on my bed with our backs against the wall.

At this point, I'm thinking in my head of a way to smoothly transition to making out. I know what to do going from making out to sex, I have those moves down very well. But I didn't know what to do from sitting on my bed to making out.

Anyway, we're watching the movie, and I'm thinking about it. Eventually we're holding hands and her head is on my shoulder. But now the movie is getting all intense and I'm wondering what's up.

Anyway, I'm thinking about it and we make a few comments about the movie, next thing I know, the movie's over! I could tell that at times due to her fidgetyness that she was getting a bit uncomfortable that I wasn't making a move with her. But I kinda froze out a bit.

Anyway, movie finishes and she gets up and says she's gotta be going. So I say ok and I walk her down and out of my apartment building. We wait at the steps, we talk for a bit, I grab her hips say something and then stop do the old eye mouth eyes and then kiss her. We say goodbye, but I could tell that all the high value I had built up as an awesome man had kinda been knocked down by the fact that I was lame.

So can someone help me out with some kino escalation in this type of scenario, maybe also movie choice, and other things.

Thanks a lot! I have a few more dates lined up with other girls, so I should be able to smooth out this aspect of my game fairly quickly and get to sober F closes on a consistent basis once I know what I should be doing.

I'm kinda embarassed by this though, because by all accounts I'm a pretty awesome dude, and I feel so lame to meet someone, get them thinking that they're with a great cool guy, and then they're back at your place where they obviously know something will go down and then I flake on them and am lame.

So yeah guys, help me out =)

Also, is there anything I should say to this girl? I kinda feel like it's done unless I say something, I don't really care tooo much but it'd suck to not get any after all the groundwork!

Not sure why you didn't make a move?

I didn't read your post, but I think I know what happened.

You treated her like a friend. She treated you like a friend. Toward the end, you got awkward and uncomfortable with how things were going, so you tried to let her know that you were interested by touching her. She wasn't used to you touching her so it was really weird.
EDIT: Was curious if I was right. You did better than you thought, at least you kissed her, but know next time that it can happen whenever you want it to.

Look up Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder. This is a resource everyone should use (thank you Don Draper) and your question isn't dumb. Memorize that ladder. Once you have it down completely cold, and know all the different categories that touching falls into, try again in field, and try to apply your knowledge.

Ooh, kind of friendzoned there.

Don't worry though, I've done the same thing myself.

You have to remember this one thing...

I've learned that "watch a movie" is code for let's get it on, or at least fool around.

And girls know this. So, if you get one that agrees to that, you're good to go.

So in that situation, I'd put the movie on, and it really doesn't matter what you pick, but I tend to go for a drama that's going to be on the boring side...since I want her to be focused on me.

So before the movie starts, make sure you're contacting her wherever you sit, whether it's on the couch or bed, I like to make sure we're sitting thigh to thigh. And make sure she's on your "good" side - I tend to like the girl on my right.

It's especially good if she intiates the first contact, such as leaning on you or putting a leg on yours. Greenlight!

So once the movie is going, I'll rest my hand on her thigh just above the knee. I let her get used to that, then I start lightly stroking the thigh, slowly moving up. Now I won't actually touch her crotch, but I'll get close enough so that she's getting antsy.

You really know that you're golden if she starts reciprocating, which by that point she probably will be, or at least have her hand on yours.

After a little while of that, turn your head toward her, and if she's not turning at the same time, nibble her ear or kiss her neck (either right behind her jaw, or where her neck meets her shoulder, depending on what you can get to)

Women love that, I find it gets them everytime.

So if she hasn't already, it's nearly 100% that she's going to turn in to kiss you after she lets you kiss her neck for a bit.

After that, oh yeah, it's ON.

And yeah, never underestimate the ear nibble or neck kiss....women LOVE that, it heats them right up.

When I'm in the situation you were in, I always try to rememeber that one thing : If she wasn't interested, she wouldn't be there. So no matter how unsure I was about her feelings, I can be completely sure of that, so it gives me the confidence to escalate.