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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:32 am 
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I find that, To build a solid game, you need to have discipline to go out constantly or you will lose what you already have.

I failed my day 10's challenge so I tempting to do it again at my school's party.

Goals:

1-Use disqualification at least on 2 different sets
2-Watch my body language, so far I had so good result on my posture.
3-Do not search for validation, instead try to give validation by using disqualification.

Hopefully, I can have a better understanding of the push and pull.
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You never lose what you already have. In fact you never lose any experience what so ever. It's just going to take some time to get back on track but you never lose anything you do in life

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Date: 20 January 2012

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Location: HEC's School Party (University Private Party)

So I been told that HEC, a finance school just beside where im studying is hosting a private party for welcoming freshman year students. My friends and I decide to go there and have a good time.
I arrived there around 10h30 because since I forgot to get my ticket so I have to wait on line. And my friends came around 12h. Why not running some games on the set in line.
So I start to small talk with a 5 mixte sets behind me and I found out that one of them is the promoter of the even. So I start to have a bound with him right the way in line. Once we are inside, he offer me the VIP area to party with them. However, I had to pay 25$ for share the bottles. So I went in, he present me to most of the people, Boom, instant DHV and social proof. There is not that much sets yet but I start with the fell girls there. There is a group of 4 girls, and one was yelling, act very hyper. That gonna be my target.
F: Omg, is she always like that? How can you guys pull up with her?
HB(yelling): Yea, I like to party!!
F: I know you are exited now but im not talking to you sweety. Be polite.
one of her friend look at me and nod: yea, we cant endure her anymore. she's special!
F: Well, anyway cheers for beginning of the school.
F: how did you guys know each and other....
small talk around for 3-5 minutes.
I start the ESP trick on one of her friends.
we small talk again about 5 minutes then another guy I meet on the line up come to say hi. I introduce him and DHV him right the way to the group. Actually Im using him as a distraction for the group.
I went to my target.
F: give me 1 sec, gonna grab me a drink then I want to show you something really cool.
grab my drink then I sat on the sofa behind them. She came to me, I used the magic trick routine(Mystery) and start to go with deep connection.(Kezia Noble)
She start to talk her dream and her personal life. Find out she is not that great with her bf, who is not here.
I dont want to stay too long in comfort and I dont know how to break report there and convert the topic tower sexuality so I just eject.

The other guy return me the favor 10 minutes later, he introduce me to his group. And there a bunch of guys and 2 girls, 1 is about 6 and the other one is a 9.
For some reason, he is keep amoging the 9 and me. We exchange name and talk a bit then the HB9 left. I dont know it because of him or I act more like a nice guy.

I went back to our original group. They start dancing a bit. I grab my old target.
F: Are you someone spontaneous?
She said yes.
Dance for me puppet dance. LOL
Then went we are having fun, my friends finally arrived after 1h of waiting.
Since I already build a DHV story intro about them. When I introduce them, they good same social proof as me. In the other hand, by doing so my friends introduce me to 3 of his female friends. We talk for a bit then I start to game on the 3 girls will my friends are on the chase on the dance floor. They didnt stay because, they said all 3 have bf. (I was like so, I can still game on them.)
2 of them are 9s and 1 is about a 7.5.
Since I dont need to Open I start right then way in A2, got her attention with one of my stories about when I was a musician and how I enjoy the beat here. Talk about law, she is a law student... then going small talk about 4 minutes.
I did the ESP routine on her. But she is the first girl that I ran that know this trick. And she explain to me how it work. Then I saw the other 9 was giving me IOI by tossing her hair and laugh at my jokes. Then I remember that I have to disqualify.
F: you know what? We can never be together, you are too much a nice guy.
HB1: Really, Im too nice?
F: well you are the mother and she is your young rebel daughter ( point to the other 9s HB).
HB1: that true, I'm their mom.
I kind of running out of material so I took a chance.
F: Let go find our friends and dance a bit together.
We went to the dance floor. Stick with my target. dance a bit together.
about 2 minutes into the dance. I show her my hands. She give me hers then we start to dance close a bit. However, I that friends are watching so I pushed her away.
F: listen, I dont want to do that in front of our friends, not so polite. ( omg why I said not polite.)
Then she said She understand too, about 5 minutes later, I lost the set they went back to the VIP area. They are obviously look for guys.
I begin to open some random set beside us, my friends were all surprise how come a 5 foots Asian is that attractive and how come no girls came to them with their muscle.

Man, by the end of the night I was sitting in the VIP area introducing 5 girls to each and other. Best night ever. I could never imagine me doing that 1 years ago. Man thx to the game, Im a much better man.
Anyway long story short, I got 2 number close but still in the college game.
Was a fun night

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:06 pm 
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Overall

Was an awesome night, prove me that having game is a big advantage and looks doesnt matter.

Positive

1-Finish my day's 10 challenge.
2-Number close 2 girls
3-Runing all the routine
4-Start to have an overview of the game.

Negative

1-Didnt flirt and tease enough.
2-Didnt convert sexuality enough.

I fell like there is a gentleman switch inside me that I need to turn down.
Most of the them, I limit myself of saying something, maybe because I was raise in away that I need to be polite and nice with everyone. I really need to get the sexual vibe. Any tips are welcome. I find that my biggest sticking points is the friend zone. I cant get out of the comfort zone...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:39 pm 
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Date: 22 January 2012

Members: Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Strip club

Ok the reason why we did strip club game, is because we were with a bunch of newbies earlier after Wildguns daygame training with newbies. We got drag to bars and clubs. I watched them approach and wast time. In fact, 5 men enter a club is already a big DLH>.<

So by the time is 1am, they all finally gone home. Wildgun said that since we are already late, let do some strip game.

My first strip game, I was a bit stressed. We went to a small strip club. The place was dead, about 2-3 other guys. So we have to go in one at time, pretty much on your own after that. A first girl approach me, I was too stress, didnt get her attention. She left. A second come.
HB: can I sit down.
F: Depend, are you fun?
HB: oh, im the funnest girl here. showing her big boobs.
I was intimidate but I need to pull myself together.
I start to neg her hair, her hand then nails.
Man, I never neg that hard of my life.
Its like neg spike.
Finally after 5 negs stopped. I start to giving interest to her behind the stripper. Since I have a nationality routine with spanish and asian. I used that and start to use deep connection. Find out some sad stories. I start to attach emotionally. Then it went wrong, she is keep coming back to surface. We sat there for about 1h30. I did all the routine, I can possibly use.
I used magic routine, after DHV stories routine, then going with Mihao's get girls routine, Palm reading, etc. At time the barmaid, about 9 HB, mixte us up in conversation. She was quit invest in my stories too. At 1 points, I give up. ask when she is going to leave. She miss understand that she have to leave. Then she left.
After that I saw wildgun in a corn, actually made his target cry...
I was like wow, he is good. He did the deep connection thing.

Then I start to chat with the barmaid. She ask me for a cigarette outside. We start to chat a lot. Then I realize she is giving me IOI since I was with that stripper...
Omg. I start right the way with DHV stories about A club call Fouf. However, I was out of material. tried also deep connection, but fail again, got bring back to surface. However, later on, I help her deal with a drunk guy. kind of impress her.

By the end of the night, I got her number, the doorman's number and free drinks from her.

Still that wasnt a solid number, but Im pretty prime because that my first strip game, And I pick up a barmaid. That a big boost of confidence. Im still so amazed by what the game is bring to the table for you. Later on, Wildgun explain me how he pick up the stripper, I learn a lot about deep connection, how to use it. I loved it.

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Yeah thats my boy motherfuckerrr!!! Barmaid's number close! Great shit right there you're improving a lot man...just by reading your last 2 reports I see BIG progress since I met you! Great job and dont forget to keep pushing your comfort zone! You have the potential that it takes to become a mPUA so don't you dare give up

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Metting new PUA's

Today I met the_mack. We talk a bit about inner game and the concept of projecting attraction and neediness. How you dont give a fck about the outcome. I learn a lot about inner confidence and break the social convention, how do not be a public but be the actor.

This guy has litteraly no shame, just say hi to every girl. run up to attractive women and open them without AA.

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Date: 27 January 2012

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Location: Thursdays

Tonight we went to Thursdays for Cougars. So I arrived around 11h30. the bar is still a bit empty. I sat down near a HB about 6 around her 40s.
F: you have some interesting earrings.
HB: thank you.
F: Im actually waiting for a friend, but can I ask you something?
HB: yea?
F: Im I better looking with my glass on or my glass off?
I did my glass opener
She found it funny and start to tease me. I can smell at least 5 IOI.
F: Im just gonna stay here for a fell minutes will waiting on my friends.
F: man, I love this place, I used to work here in summer time, I know all the bartender and the manager, he's a lovely man.
HB: you worked here?
F: yea, And I know exactly where you came from?
HB: oh yea where?
F:Easten Europe.
She laugh: No, Im from asia.
F: Well im from Russia.
HB: yea, tell me something in Russia.
I said something in spanish, LOL, I was playing with her so hard.
She said she is a bit drunk and she want to buy me a drink.
Wildgun walk in, didnt saw me. So I excuse myself than grab him back to my set.
We start to small talk.
I use the ESP trick.
Then she bought me a drink. We keep the small talk.
Wildgun tell me that there is 2 cute girls sitting almost beside us. Then he said there is people already opening them so we need to wait a bit.
Out of nowhere, The_mack come up to us. Talk a bit with us then he get back the sets Wildgun pointed to me.
Withing 5 minutes, he got the number, then 10 minutes later, he bounce them to another table. He come back to us.
Mack: Hey guys, this is Cliff, a good friend of mine.
I was like... No that cant be... The Cliff form the Clifflist.
Omg, I read the Game but I never thought I can actually meet someone in that book.
I was so excited.
We ask him alot of question about all the MPUA's.

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We were having fun, Cliff told us about AFC Adam, Sasha Daygame, Mystery and Neil.. We also meet Jeff. another legend in life. Talk to him a bit but he was training some newbies so cant stay for long.

Later on, I was introduce into Mack's set because his 2 set change into a 4 sets with 2 more girls.

I had a huge crush on one of the new girls.
I introduce myself politely into the set. Start to small talk with them about local evens.
After a will, I start to isolate my target. And doing routine on her. I start with DHV story routine about my band and the time we playing a concert.
Then I move to magic routine. But Mack have to leave so, I didnt have time to finish A3 on my target then over... They went to the Imperial room, invited me but I was there with another wing. I didnt know what to do at the moment, so I kiss goodbye to all then left.

We went to Foufoune electrique after but didnt work that well. We hooked into a couple sets but the conversation was going nowhere sexual so endup leaving the place.

Still a very good night, I meet 2 legend from The Game and saw The_Mack in field pick up a 9 HB.

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Date: 28 January 2012

Members: Froggy, Valentyn, T-Rex, Steve

Location: Cafe Campus ( Noisy NightCLub)

My first time teaching someone new into the game. So I was pretty nervous. We begin by talking about what is the game and how it work. I spend about 3H explaining how MM works and teaching different routine and theories in order for him to do something in field. So his challenge was to open about 2 differents sets and give 5 differents girls a compliment about an interesting items on them. I felt very different today, I mean I had alot of AA, even maybe more AA then Steve who is his first time in field. why? Because, I might need to demonstrate some of the stuff I learn and I might fail miserably in front of him.

Before we went to the club, we went to the gym and start to get him waves or say hello to random people. After 2h of training, he did 2 approach. Not bad for a first timer.

Once inside the club, we went to the second floor. We sat next to a 3 sets mixtes. a guy beside me with 2 girls, the one that sat next to him was probably his GF or intimate friend and the other one is obviously a friend of the other girl. The problem is the couple where talking together but I too far to open the single girl...And Steve start to ask me for demonstration. My brain was suddently freeze, I have 0 opener in mind. But I have to go in anyway. So 1, 2 ,3.
I tap on the guy's inside arm.
F: Hey, do you have any gum by any chance?
G: yea, how many do you want 1 or 2?
F: oh 2 please, thx very much.
G: np
I jump right the way to my glass routine.
F: I'm waiting for some friends, I need a quick female opinion on something. I'm I better looking with my glass on or my glass off.
his GF lean in. I start to play my with glass, on, off, on, off.
HB: yea you are better with the glass on.
F: thx for the advice.
G: you are gonna score tonight?
F: Oh, Im just out with some friend to have fun. My name is froggy btw.
He introduce me to the set.
F: Man, just before we came here, I went to the gym, I was so tired but now we gonna party hard!
G: yea? you guys comes here often?
F: well mostly friday, free for students. But I here with a friend.
I start a small DHV story of Steve and introduce him to the set.
F: he is the most awsome smart guy I ever meet.
I dont know if I did something wrong there but, I went around the couple will Steve was introducing to them.
group spit into 2 groups.
I start to small talk with the single, did the ESP trick.
Ask about if they were best friends. Anwser was no... So I go with how do you guys know each and other.
small talk for another 4-5 minutes. 2 guys just add randomly to the group and start to give me hit 5, that clearly AMOG. Steve didnt know that they where AMOGing him. So I had to drag him out and explain him AMOG.

A bit later We went downstairs, I had him talk to a waitress. Then we spot a 2 sets sitting beside us.
F: go to them and say that. My friend said that I look like a drug dealer. What do you guys think.
Idk how it went but the 2 girls laugh and he was lock into the set.
I enter the set 3-4 minutes later. after introducing myself. I start with ESP trick then Best friend test. joking about their ages. talk for about 5 more minutes then eject.

Valentyn told me that I didnt change seat with the girls that was a big mistake. Cause we were standing the hole time and they were sitting. I should have do the compliing test and switch place with one of them.Fuck me!

I did also a several set by myself but nothing worst it.
Valentyn told me that if girl are being bitchy just neg more.

We start another set by the bathroom.
F: hey, you know that the dancefloor is over there.
HB1: yea, but we are having more fun over here. (In a bitchy way)
F: yea you look to have alot of fun. Btw Are those hair even real, cause they look fake.
HB1: Hey, they are real!
F: Man you are like a small energie ball, jumpinng around like a kid. how old are you?
HB1: Well guess?
F: 45?
they laugh.
F: do you want to see a magic trick?
HB: yes, please. (Super excited)
F: give me your hand.
I took her hand and spin her. LOL!!!
In the same time Steve start to talk with the other girl. and 2 minutes later she grab my target to the dance floor.
I was like wtf?

After a will we run into valentyn's set. I forgot to do our wingman code enter. I ruin the set. (sorry Bro)



By the end of the night. We meet some of my asian friends on the dancefloor. Most of the set that we open came up to say hello and Give us a mad load of Social Proof. Steve end up dancing with one of the 2 girls that we meet near the bathroom.
I open by the dance floor just by bumping my ass to an 7 HB.
F: I know you want to dance with me but at least buy me a drink first!
HB: no, but who are you.
F: I'm a Ninja!
She laugh and give me a fuck you.
F: yea, I bet you didnt had time this morning.
HB: why?
F: I can see it throught your hair! What it call again? Waffle!
She give me another fuck you but start to dance with me. I was confuse... I was just negging her hard because she was bitch and she dance with me because I almost insult her...

Im keep watching on Steve, there is no kino between him and the girl. So I break my set and whisper to him will he is dancing with the other girl.
F: touch her more, go more intense.

After a will, I talk to him again.
F: after this song try to isolate her bring her to a quiet place.
He tried but somehow he didnt express himself, the girl thought he have to go...
After I ask he to go close her.
By the end of the night, he number closed.

I was like wow, that guy actually number close on his first day sarging.

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Positif:

1-Being a very good teacher
2-Good body language
3-Being able to run routine one after the other really quickly and fluid.

Negatif:

1-Didnt isolate a single target
2-Ruin my wing sets.
3-my inner game is very low.

Next Goals:

1-Get more DHV stories.
2-Watch more how the situation goes when im winging some buddy.
3-Stop being affaid of negging bitch target. need to turn my gentleman switch off

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Cool stuff you did with the girls near the bathroom. Great transitioning from your neg to the age thing and great breaking rapport by saying she's 45. It's good that you're helping this new guy out. I'm pretty impressed he approached a fairly tough seated 2 set. His body language is really good for a beginner..he's actually the best guy that I've seen as his first performance ever in field. Keep going and dont worry if I lost my set yesterday..I'm doing this for the skill..but you have to make the wingman technique the YES/NO before each time we enter someone elses set. I'm going to do that to you and you do the same. That way if I respond yes it means I need help with the obstacles..but if I think I can pull it off..I'll say no when you ask the question! Next time we'll get them! Peace out!

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Date: 29 January 2012

Members: Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Eton Center

I finish my work early so I decide to join Wildguns to do some daygame before the stores close. We approch a fell set but nothing seems pass hook point. Only one set was worst it.

At the end of that sarging session, we went to the food quarter. I saw a girl sitting there by herself playing with her Iphone (latino about HB 8).
F: hey, do you know what time it is? (With my hand pointing at my wirst.)
HB: I dont speak french but I think you are asking me for time.
she show me her Iphone with time.
I quickly go with multiple thread.
F: Oh Hey do you know where is the Burger king, Me and my friends suppose to meet there.
HB: you mean the Burger king behind you?
I was like crap there is really a Burger King behind me...
F: yea Im a bit early, you do have a small accent, where do you come from?
HB: I'm from Brazil. Sorry for earlier, I'm here to study french.
F: oh so you are a exchange student. where you study at, McGill?
HB: no no just a private school.
F: I have to meet my friends soon but I think I can stay for 30 sec. ( I pull a chair and sit down)
F: so how long you been here?
HB: about 1 month.
F: (super surpris) Wow, you kidding me, and your english is that good.
HB: yea, I been here only 1 month.
We start small talk, exchange our background. She's a psychologist and im studying in psychology, so I was kind of naturely interest in her so A3 was very easily done. I start to use deep connection, find out that her childhood issue. Man I just love Kezia Noble. She start to ask my name, my age and other things about me.

Its the first time that I find the pickup very nature, there is no searching for IOI or thinking about wich stage im in and the best of it. I never had to use 1 single routine at all.

I know that I cant stay for long, I ask for a way to contact her and talk about psychology again. Unfortunatly she didnt have a cellphone yet she give me her facebook.... fail!!!

I stay a bit more in set to get more comfort and dont make it look like a pick-up.

I need to give The_Mack a big clap, cause he told me a lot on inner game that reduced alot of my neediness make my approches looks much more nature.

Anyway I have to meet him the 30 jan.

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My first workshop

Date: 30 January 2012

Members: Froggy & The_Mack

Location: Mesa 14

It was a bit weird, almost like in one of those mafia movies, The_Mack was in a small VIP zone eating with a big guy with a bit of lighting.

Here is my review on The_Mack's workshop:

He is a good teacher, explain very clearly, often stop during lecture ask you for questions. He use different exemples and give you pretyped note to add to your notes. Most of the theory giving are not only appliable on pick-up but also good for rebuilding your society image. actually, his entire workshop is based on how to make You a better person than rater to tell you how to fake confidance or tell tech. to get the girl.
I like how he took your old identity and change it with a new one. however, I think I needed more time on me than on the general theory. Would be better if we had a 50%-50%.

But I do also get a in field session with him and also a 3 month follow up for Q&A!
That very special compare to the other workshop. He give also other reading material throught Facebook group that give you an extra bonus from the workshop. So at least he give you a small start to help you gain your inner confidance.

I left there with more questions than Anwsers but at least I know how to fixe my inner game to help me bring my game to another level.

So far, he is the most friendly instructor ive seen.

The true player is the player in love with the love of the game.
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More Goals

For next week I'm going to do some of The_mack's inner exercices.

Also keep thinking about my DHV stories.

However from now on, Im going to try the best of myself to give no fake agendas behind my approches. Im gonna do it from a place of desir not from a place of need.

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