Ok, first of all you gave her the power by "asking" her. You know . . . "want to come?" Instead, a simple rewording of "you should come", or "you need to come" would have been better.

As much as I don't like Ross Jeffries, what he's saying about laying down the law is actually right. The very line you wrote on here would not make you look like a jerk unless you say it in an arrogant way. And that's really the difference. You need to NOT ask, but invite or suggest for her to come along. And when you do this, do not say it in an arrogant way, but say it with CONFIDENCE. Confidence in that you know who YOU are. You know that YOU are someone that she would be thankful to spend time with. So, yes, next time you talk to her, give her the choice. Don't ask her again, just give her to choice. In fact, you could use that same line from above. Because right now, she's just blowing you off. Period. So, even if she says no, realize you haven't lost anything. Because she's already saying no.

What do you mean by giving her the choice? Choice of what?

The choice that's embedded in that line.

Yeah, okay, I understand. I've already asked her twice, now I have to find out whether she is really into me. In the end all guys want is a "thumbs up or down" from a girl; and with this girl's choice, I am assured of it. Thanks again. (An aside, how much is the initial cost of the PMZ?)

See, that's another thing that's hurting you. You're not only asking, but asking too many times.

As far as the cost of the PMZ . . . Brad is still working that issue out.

Hey Trip,

How long should I pause between negs and fluff/connecting topics? Say I neg a girl on her nails, do I immediately go straight to "so how do you all know each other" or do I pause for a second to smile and let it register? Getting some mixed results in sets, so just wondering...

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Maybe you're right, maybe I should just beg off on this girl. The problem is is that she is the only girl who I have legitimately sarged this entire semester (no time because of school). It maybe kind of a one-itis at this point. Fuck (looks down in disappointment)

Roads, do NOT pause after a neg. You "throw and go". It WILL register with her after a minute, but you've already moved on to the next topic, and that's a good thing. You don't want to stand there and let it sink in and give her time to respond, because that actually ends up making it seem more like an insult. So, just throw and go.

Slie, sarge while in class, or between classes. Become the social center. Make the entire class your social circle. Muse has some posts about that and how effective it is.

Hey Tripp I been going out to alot of bars with a few long time buddies alot lately- and for the most part I am approaching well and getting much better in general with alot of things. However, one of my friends game is nothing more than making fun and talking smack to me and the other guys so he can feel cool and pretend he is better in front of the ladies, he does this in fact about 80% of the time. I don't want to tell him to take a hike because alot of the time it's just me and him goin sarging- how would you reccomend putting him in his place- talking to him about it only gets responses like "oh shut up" or "don't be gay", among many other unitelligent statements.

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Sorry Tripp. Hey hittinczar, have you looked into Tyler Durden's AMOGing? It might work in busting your friend.

I heard it was possible to use the techniques that PUA's use to win a girls heart even if she's going out with someone already.

Just for fun, I want to be able to do that with my ex gf. Any idea what to do there?

xvxv, You could use your ex, but if she actually falls for you again are you then gonna tell her it was just a big joke? If you want to practice boyfriend destroying, don't go use your ex. If all you want is to have sex with her, than maybe, but if I were you I'd find a different girl. Again Tripp I'm sorry, (smiles) I just couldn't help myself with this one.

With this situation you've got two choices. Either AMOG him harder than he is you, but also in a more subtle way. Don't come across looking like a jackass or looking like he's hurting your feelings, but come across in a way that shows (or at least looks like) he doesn't BOTHER YOU, but you're still in effect telling him to shut up. The girls will love it. The other choice is to go sarging w/o him. You'd be better off anyway.

That's the two different ways you could handle that. I go sarging all the time by myself. I've taken a guy ONCE. He wasn't a wing actually, just a friend. I've had a girl several times, but she wasn't a wing or a pivot either, just added social proof, even though she didn't realize it, lol. But most of the time, I'm alone. You can do the job going in alone.

Yes, it's definitely possible. PUA's take girls from their b/f's a lot, for different reasons. Some reasons are good, some not so good. But that's beside the point for this question.

With your ex, how is her current relationship? Is it good? If so, I wouldn't mess with it. She will end up hating you for that. If she's still attracted to you, and she's not that happy with her current, then I'd say go for it. If you're just wanting her for sex one time though, that's a decision you'll have to make.

As far as what to do, it really depends on how much attraction she has for you at the moment. If she's still attracted to you, it would actually be easy to do. If she's not attracted to you anymore, it would be pretty tough. Give me more info about this one before I go further.

THX for responding so quickly. I'm going out tonight so I will try something along the lines of AMOG harder than he. I might haft to blow up one of his sets and just point out that hes trying to hard, hopefully oneof these gets him in check. again- thank you.

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