Hi

I've already asked you guys about this 27yo HB9 and you've been a great help.
It's this girl:
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SHORT STORY:
Please note that I've already froze her out for 6 months and then almost for 4 months... Technically we met 7 times total, 5 times this year 2012, dating.
What I know is that she broke up with her bf 2 month ago, they moved apart. But she was already telling me that they were about to break up last February, 1 year ago. I I don't know if this matters.

I do know that sex is great, every time she had several orgasms, even squirted twice, I thought that would get me somewhere, but it doesn't. Untill a few days ago I seriously thought that everything went great :S

We last met 3 days ago and no contact ever since. Today in the morning I liked 1 of the pics on facebook... No reaction, and I know that she's seen that. I might be getting too needy beacuse it was always me who came up with the idea of meeting up. Out of the text convos, only 1 was initiated by her. She is defintely looking for a LTR, she's only had LTRs, and says that I was the 4th guy she ever had sex with (even if you double this number it's not a lot).

I know that I've already made a mistake becasue a few days ago I told my 38yo MILF fuck buddy that I met someone and we should stop seeing each other. I'm just realizing now that it could lead to developing some oneitis.

Even my worst gf who cheated on me several times (before I dumped her) contected me/texted me every single day, but usually mutiple times a day..

My question is this: how do I get this HB9 to initiate contact? How do I get her wanting to see me more often? Or am I messing the chance up for a possible relationship by not "proving myself" and keep calling her and suggesting date after date? I think if I called her just now and suggested a date she would happy meet me but that's just fucked up like this.

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"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky

anyone pls? i would really appreciate it. i still haven't contacted her, nor has she contacted me.

_________________
"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky

bro,

it seems to me u need to freeze her out a little. how long? not sure exactly... but let me ask you this. are you deminstrating or have you been the 3 things mystery talks about in building a relationship w a women. the 3 are

1. being pre-selected by women-- does she see u w other girls? do u DHV?
2. being the leader of men -- are u the tribal leader?
3. are u a protector of your loved ones -- have u deminstrated this or told stories


if u r doing these things she wouldnt b flaking imo... something is not clicking. she needs to see more of one of those three if not all of them.

hope that helps, if u need more info or how to demo these feel free to pm me.

duke

how should you demonstrate those things during a freezeout?

Thanks for the advice.
Should I freeze her out as long as it takes her to call or should I contact her after some time?
I've been freezing her out for almost a week now (except for that single facebook like I gave her). I think it's getting really awkward, I guess she's expecting me to call, especially because of the weekend now...
What do I tell her on "first contact"? I was thinking of something like "I was really starting to think that you were just playing with me and that you never call me is not what I'm looking for in a girl".
What do you guys think?

I can DHV on facebook. A hot girl invited me to her house party on my wall yesterday. This party is tonight. I asked for the guest list in the comments and she said it's just 3 couples... and us! Crazy, but I was lucky with this on my wall, I'm sure she's seen that.
#2, I've been doing that. #3 I had frieds telling her about me, I think it was even better.

BTW-she doesn't flake. Everything would be really great...the problem is that she never initates contact. And I'm not sure about this freezout either... It should be working but it's been almost a week now! She really is a conservative girl from a small village... I don't know what else I could do to make her contact me?

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"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky

ok, you have posted on this before, now I have some ideas to share with you,

A freeze out is more for you then it is for her, alot of girls waste your time and want your attention(especially if it is good), but don't want to sleep with you, so when a girl is doing something you don't like or is taking to long to sleep with you, you freeze her out, this isn't to win her over, it is so you can actually put your time into other girls (assuming you actually use your time and don't just have contact with less then 10 girls and never meet new ones), some girls wounder what is up and you are in a position of more power (that is if you actually whent out in field and actually got some new number *btw getting numbers is easy girls give them out like candies*), and that position of power is that you don't need her, does this make her like you more??... who cares that is not the point, just go for what you want, more bad behavior (flake), then just stop talking to her and ignore her all together, if she wants to just waste time and go for what she wants while not giving you what you want, don't put up with it, screen her out of your life, if she misses you enough she will comply

that is just life man, some girls want to sleep with you, some don't, some girls will use you for sex while looking for a new guy, some girls will see multiple guys at the same time, guys often get attached to specific girls for reasons relating to looks or having a lack of other options, you don't ever have to cut girls off completely from you, or delete their numbers or anything, but I would say a general good rule of thumb is, 3 flakes in a row, only contact occassionally 1 time every 1-2 weeks, other then that only let her come to you, and if it takes longer then 7 days out with her to close, only contact occassionally 1 time every 1-2 weeks, other then that only let her come to you,

now how you get a girl to invest (how do you get her to initiate), is fairly simple, if you are valuable to her she will do so, if not she won't do so (good looking, good social skills/strong reality, attractive lifestyle), the more strong you are in those areas and the better you demonstrate your strengths and stir up emotions inside her, the more willing to invest she will become, at this point if you have known her for months and she doesn't care to intitiate then you have to ask yourself, why do you care so much if she intitiates?, is it so you feel validated?, you could just find new girls if she won't come out any more, and as long as she comes out and meets you when you want and sleeps with you, why is it s big deal?, especially since you can find girls who will hit you up like crazy just after knowning them for one day, and if she had sex with you, you have a really high level of investment, she will sleep with you but you are sweating her not texting first?

GOOD LUCK

The reason I want her to initiate contact is 1) I don't want to train her to think of our "relationship" as it's always me who initates 2) to get her more invested. I may have not summerized it the right way but we were really heading towards having a relationship (she even mentioned it once, we were walkin on the street holding hands, had sex for the last 3 meetups, which is supposed to be a big thing for her having had only a few partners). But than no contact at all this week... weird.

She does not flake, that is not a problem (since she's been single), we met and talked regularly thoughout January.

Getting numbers and even SNLs is not a problem usually but that's not what I want, I'm not looking for sex here. I'm looking for something more meaningful and builing a deeper connection, I really need some advice in this area.

It's getting really awkward. Should I freeze her out as long as it takes her to call or should I contact her after some time?

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"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky

UPDATE:
Yesterday she posted some sad youtube music on her facebook wall (Yuna - Coffee). A friend of her asked her about it.

Friend of her: "Who are you thinking about when listening to it"
HB9: "about him"
Friend of her: "Who is that lucky bastard"
HB9: "him"

Now it's either me, or someone esle (maybe her ex?). She removed this post today.

8 days without contact...
Should I keep freezing her out as long as it takes her to call or should I contact her after some time?

_________________
"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky