Hey guys,

I hope everyones doing well, and I'd like to thank you all for taking the time to read my post, and help me out. I'm doing my best to contribute as well.

Well heres the story, a friend of mine from school and I are going to be hanging out Friday, he is bringing his girlfriend, and a very hot 9/10 girl. Now I've seen the 9/10 girl at school, but not so frequently that I've had the chance to approach her as of yet. I've also poked her on facebook (like an idiot before I actually started studying the PUA and etc.) which I guess was a DLV. Now I'm not sure exactly where we'll be going and that was one of my questions, where is a good place to go. Im learning that taking them out for dinner isn't the greatest thing to do any ideas.

Also here are a few things that I wanted some feedback on and to clear up I appreciate the help:

1) Do I have to open her with a standard opener?
- I mean obviously we are going to talk, most likely with small talk which is bad so should I just stay quiet in the car and DHV until we get to the spot, and then open her?

2) Should I neg her, even though she has agreed to come on the date. Now my opinion on this is it would be ok to use them to make her work for me, and DHV but on the flip side of the coin since shes coming to hang out I really don't have to disguise myself from being a suiter. (Maybe I do im a little confused with this.)

3) I'm going to tell her a DHV Story. Not something Like mysterys DHV blowjob story lol, but maybe I'll come up with something good like that that demonstrates that I care for my loved ones, I'm pre-selected by women, and I'm an alpha male.

4) I think I'm just a little nervous lol, any other info I would really appreciate. I think Im over analyzing it, but I'd rather go in with a gameplan then go cold turkey. I think I just need to demonstrate higher value and be fun and outgoing. Should I just use the standard Open, Neg, DHV, comfort build process, and throw in keno of course?

***Oh yeah also I was going to mentioned that I wasn't the one who poked her on facebook, I was going to say that it was someone else in my finance class when I left my computer on. That would be a good way to get the DLV out of the way.

Thank you guys I appreciate your help

Well im goin to guess that you will be introduced on the spot to her if not u can get some1 too by sayin something like "isnt that rude no1 is gonna introduce me" u know wit a smile and all pretty important to make it seem light hearted. Than im sure there will be small chat like were do u work blah blah this gives chances to joke around and give light hearted answer not typical of other dudes. Set urself up wit some DHV stories i dont no u personaly so for ex. ask her if she enjoys winter sports and regardless of her answer i could tell her a story about how i broke my arm snowboarding wit my bro and when i got down to the bottom i still wanted to go more. Now go ahead and use that story or come up wit ur own sweet story.

If she seems intrested add in another follow up are u could run some routines on her (if u dont no wut im talkin about i guess just post reply) and if u get some good routines in you may start wit some light kino.

Good luck wit ur 9 and im sure i missed some stuff but feel free to post reply to this and ill see if i can hlp.

Yeah lol, I think i need some good DHV stories. Should I use negs to? I think were gonna go out for dinner and a movie my buddy mentioned. Im not sure if thats a good idea though unless i can build some comfort and attraction before, so i can kiss close her in the movie.

What I'm mainly concerned about is where do i go since its like a double date its not exactly a cold approach. I just want a bit of a game plan so i know where im at. (Eg. negs, DHV stories, etc.)

She will already be opened, so you won't need an opener.

If she doesn't mention the Facebook thing, there's no need to say anything about it, period.

Just have fun with her, build her attraction to you, whether that be using negs or push/pull or whatever you want to use on her. Build the kino, built the comfort level.

You two are hanging out, so just have fun. Also, talk your buddy into not doing the movie and dinner thing. So boring, and you can't talk to her during the movie.

Thanks buddy I appreciate your help. Alright so I don't need to open. What i need to work on then is the DHV. I guess ill throw a neg or to without over doing it and fing a good DHV story/other material thanks.

What do you suggest instead of dinner and a movie, any suggestions? I know it is kinda boring lol, and not much time to talk/game her.

Well it seems like ur stuck on where to go for this date. And i assume ur underage so i hav to disagree wit not doin the movies (i agree that its lame) but i think for a blind date it wont be to bad.

Ull hav a chance to run game on her to and from each spot and at dinner. best bet would to do dinner first so u can build comfort and maybe pull off some cheap kino in the movies .

And im not sayin dont go for it by all means do ur best to kiss close but wit the time ur givin i think number closeing is alot more reasonable. I "think" it takes an average of 7 hours before she will feel comfortable enuff to kiss. But go for the GOLD man

7 hours is F-close. kiss close is within 2-3, personally. If you've got some really great kino going and push pull, you can kiss close in a night, and if you go movie, check to see if the arm rests lift up, if so MONEY! In the end, have fun, don't freak about it, she's a girl, just like the other thousands of them running about, just this one seems to have avoided the ugly stick

A kiss shouldn't even take 2-3 hours, if the kino is progressing well.

Also, even being underage, the dinner and movie thing is boring and most likely will not help to achieve the objective on the first date. Wait until she has a lot of comfort built with you before you suggest dinner and a movie.

Some ideas that would be better are things like mini-golf or anything like that where you can be talking to her while playing some kind of fun game. Talking, kinoing, and all that while playing around.

Thanks for your help, Thats what I was thinking bro lol, If i were to go for dinner and a movie the dinner would have to be first so i could work some game, and hopefully some kino, and then during the movie i could even build more kino and kiss close her. It doesnt take 7 hours to kiss close though you can do it i within 30 minutes sometimes (I have). 4-7 hours is for sleeping with the target. Thanks for your help and input though bro I appreciate it.


quote="Mr. Prez"] 7 hours is F-close. kiss close is within 2-3, personally. If you've got some really great kino going and push pull, you can kiss close in a night, and if you go movie, check to see if the arm rests lift up, if so MONEY! In the end, have fun, don't freak about it, she's a girl, just like the other thousands of them running about, just this one seems to have avoided the ugly stick [/quote]

Thats true bro thanks, shes just a girl im the prize, she has to work for me .


I agree with this L.A. i think that dinner and a movie isn't a great first date. I think that minigolfing is agreat idea so its fun and i can start building comfort and attraction. I think before I see a movie with her I want to build some comfort.


Thank you everyone for your advice so far i really appreciate it

Here are some ideas for less AFC types of dates...

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miniGolf, Parks, window shopping, skateing, etc are all options too.

IMO movies are best used with 2 circumstances attached, you are already into comfort zone, and building up comfort will be easily amp'd by pushing and pulling in relation to how much kino you provide and return. Secondly it is best done watching a crappy movie . Good example: Pitch Black. That was years ago but basically any action/sci-fi/comedy that you as a guy would only find mildly entertaining.

Hope these help, gl with your date.

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haha thanks buddy, those are good ideas. Maybe a nice stroll downtown then ice skating at city hall, thats pretty cool!

lol, yeah i agree, i think i'd have to build some comfort before maybe a day2 would be better to see a movie.

The downtown skating would be key, especialy if your a good skater... I'v used that alot due to my previous hockey experience. It's even better if you find out shes a shitty skater, gives u the opportunity to Kino without it being obvious (looks like ur helping but still builds the comfort level) Antoher thing I like is bowling for a first date, ussually lots of time to interact and joke around especially with 4 of you

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Thanks bud, yeah skating is a pretty good first date, i doubt she is very good at skating, and I played AAA hockey so I'm fairly good myself. I guess that would be a pretty good first date. Maybe a walk downtown, girls love walking in Yorkville, then city hall skating. A nice social (out of the ordinary) first date. See I think it was the other guy who reccomeneded dinner and a movie which for him is fine, because its his girlfriend, but I have yet to get open my target, let alone establish comfort. And if the movie was the first thing we did, the chances of a kiss close are much less. If I were to build attraction, comfort, repoir, etc, on the first date with a walk downtown windowshopping etc, and skating i think a second date of dinner and a movie would be good.

Now you're on the right track. Stay there, lol.

Obviously your friend doesn't understand social dynamics, lol. Oh well, we all had to start somewhere.