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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:58 pm 
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No luck on either POF, or OKC. I don't get it. Decent looking guy, pretty successful, somewhat creative/witty messages. What am I missing? Any advice?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:59 pm 
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I personally think most girls are on their for a self esteem boost lol


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:00 pm 
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Thats what I've been thinking.
I also recently noticed that some of them haven't logged on in about a month. So they obviously forget that they have them or don't use them.


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Without any clue of what your profile looks like or any examples of the messages your sending it's hard to say anything about why you are having a hard time.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:39 pm 
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And are you contacting girls who have logged on recently, or even, are online now?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:10 pm 
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http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=35332072

Here's the link to my pof profile.

And yes I've been contacting girls who have been recently logging in.

I've been using a lot of variety in my messages.

Here's one of been using lately


Serious question.
Lets say your taking me out for dinner (I'm starving and I haven't eaten anything all day). You just got home from the gym and still need to get ready.
How long until were out the door?
a) 30 min and you look hot and and I can't keep my hands off of you.
b) 1 hour and you look cute.
c) 2 hours and I end up dying from starvation.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:52 pm 
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You're educated and seem to have a grasp on what this is all about, but there's a few serious problems with your profile that are stopping you from reaching women who you're interested in.

I think its in your best interest to take another pass at your profile. The most important thing is that you need to pick what you're looking for, and deliver a message that is consistent.

Your profile says you're looking for dating but nothing serious. Girls want to do this with guys who are fun and/or exciting to be around.

Number 1 is always the photographs. These count for 90%+ of your profile. I think your profile picture is great, and you may want to include it to show what you look like when you're cleaned up; but neither of your photos convey that you're fun and/or exciting. The Myspace shot probably suggests the opposite.

Moreover, you say that you're not into the club scene, but in the myspace shot, you look like you're headed out to a club. Myspace angles are not very successful for men, either (OKTrends). So try ditching the second photo, and replace with photos of you doing interesting things. This will give targets more of a chance to engage with you. Its akin to peacocking in this respect.


After the photo, the screen name and tag line are the most important. Personally, I would go with a screen name that is more recognizably interesting. The tagline is very common for some reason. I prefer to put something out there that qualifies the woman rather than talks about you. Marketing studies all confirm that qualifying the consumer is the best way to sell your product.


As far as the actual profile goes, try concentrating your efforts on four aspects:
1. Qualify her
2. Qualify yourself
3. Talk about what you want out of a relationship
4. Talk about how she fits into your lifestyle

The only qualifying here is the section about what you don't want in a mate. I like this, although it looks very familiar. However, unless you seem like the kind of guy who might get hit on by trashy women, women will not buy it. You're educated, and apparently into intellectual pursuits. Talk about this (among other classy interests), and the section about what you're not looking for will make more sense.


Your messages out to girls strikes me as incomplete. You might want to include this , but you should also be qualifying yourself and poking fun at the target if possible.

Online dating is not easy. It took me years to get a handle on it. The more effort you put in, the more you get out. I have no doubt you can succeed at it also. Good luck, let us know how it works out!

Jpow


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Very constructive advice. Most of which I already considered, so thanks.

You mentioned that my main profile picture looks good. However, the initial problem is that I'm not getting views. Which is solely based on that picture. Any advice?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:18 am 
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You must have bought Bravo's overpriced online game product, or watched his YouTube video.

You definitely need more photos, as 2 aren't enough. I believe 8 is the maximum allowed, then PoF charge a fee if you want more than 8 pics, so have 8 pics up.

A couple message filters are good to have and it pays for women to have a few of them, to avoid getting bombarded with messages, but when I see that many message filters on a lady's PoF profile, it tends reflecting that's she's being ultra picky and ultra fussy. On a guy profile with as many message filters as what you have, it tends reflecting the same. I'd cut your message filters down to no more than 2 or 3 and just mention in the profile that you're not into smokers.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Hey RTRA- No problem, man! You are correct, few views is mostly going to be a result of your profile photo. I still say its a good photo, but you'll want something more interesting as your main photo. Ideally, go with an action shot. Next best would be one of you somewhere interesting.

Good luck!


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