Damn... online pick up war, this is supposed to be a loving harmonious community!

I haven't read all of this thread, so sorry if I've missed something but 20 pages is a lot!

SexAddict, 800 is a huge number of girls to have slept with, but who am I to discredit it? It's an impressive number if true, you must have a revolving door fitted to your bedroom

Some of your advice in my opinion seems a little weak, but this is only from my view after having studied various aspects of 'game'.

However, know that there are naturals out there that are doing things that are taught in pick up without even realising it. And if you have the confidence factor you can pull off near anything.


~Deebo

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Weak in what sense? DO you mean compared to all the OVER advice, i see from the book PUA's My advice is simple and to the point. It's all about effort and confidence. Getting into advance reading and shit like that is not warranted. I keep seeing people posting expecting my entire knowledge all in one post. I didn't realize this was supposed to be in essay format.

My advice is simple yes. Why over complicate things, this isn't rocket science, its human interaction. It doesn't even matter "what you say" all the matters in the manner you say it in. And how you project it. It really is that simple.

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Can someone on please be so kind as to create an abbreviatons list for me.

I would appreciate it.


Thanks.



KINO=
AFC=
DVH=

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At first I was all about listening to you to see what advice you could give and your perspective. I was intrigued by what kind of person you were.

But now I disagree, I can't see how a natural can really give advice to the community. You have your own style and you figured out everything on your own and and I believe a lot of that you wouldn't be able to explain because right now its 'you'. Like you've said every situation is different for you.

Let me add 20yrs ago I imagine gaming was completely different, it was in a different era and I'm making an assumption it would have been alot easier. In today's world PU has already gone mainstream and women are different. But thats beside my point

My main point of this is that although I've seen you give some good advice, some of it won't be helpful to people reading this thread. I think you would be a better person in giving life experience than advice. I'm not hating just my opinion.

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Dude, 20 yrs ago I was just a teenager. I am still very much in the game. the average age of women I sleep with are between 25-32. I recently hit a 22 yr old. Gaming is always the same. The only difference from 10 yrs ago to now, is advances in technology. for pics/video's and texting is more mainstream.

The fundamentals never change.

I have been lucky enough to always look very young for my age.

I see a lot of overkill advice on this forum. Too much info! Sometimes the simple advice can be the most effective, as it is the easiest to understand.

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800 is very unlikely, the information you are giving us is information that you could have gotten by looking at sparknotes of "the game"....give us a scenario of what happened and how you did it like the other PUA's on here..

Too vague of a question. You are seeking the stories that the books will tell you. I don't know how to explain it how you would like to hear it. Read my posts, I am sure you will get a better understanding of my game. If you ask a more specific question I can give you my past experience on it. But the very fact that you start off your post with a "negative" Is surely a sign that your inclination will be to take anything i write with a negative frame of mind.

I've already been there and done that too many times throughout this thread. I am not here to argue or prove myself, I know with time my experience will prove itself.

If you have a question and want my take on it, then ask away. If you want to just challenge my existence, well you're just wasting your time.

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Hehe, I've never heard such a true quote in my life.

How can i turn a friend into a girlfriend?
I´ve tried to pick her up but she just ljbf me,i was acting AFC ,called her everyday ,making a lot of compliments and acting like a little pussy ...stuff like that....
After i joined the community i´ve tried to do the exact opposite that i was doing but it didn´t work as well....
What should i do?

This is something that should be in the general questions section.

I wanted to ask him,a man who fucked 800 women that´s a question that only a man like him could give , who´s better to give me an answer about that????????

SA, here's a list of all the terms used in PU literature with definitions.

http://www.pualingo.com/pua-terminology-list/

Cheers!

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rAFC and yes, I'm a chick.

I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

This is a question which a man who has fucked only one woman shouldn't answer let alone the theoretical 800.

Sometimes nothing will work. It all comes down to how much you value her friendship. You can keep trying but if she is giving you the signs that she's not interested in you like that it can eventually ruin the friendship as well.

I am not sure how long you have known her or what type of friendship you have so it's very hard to gauge.

The only way you can get out of the friend zone is to change her perception of you.



I have managed to turn it around a few times in my life, but generally it's next to impossible once you have passed a certain plateau.( friends zone) Depending on how long you are willing to make the effort. There is a couple things you can try.

First off, I stopped my advances with the girl and just became her friend. I then proceeded to hit on her friends ( while staying friends with her) Eventually her friends started to show interest in me, thus creating a competition ( even if only in the unconscious) She eventually started to see me through others( her friends) eyes rather then her own ( get it?) Without getting into the science of it all, it's probably your best bet to try.

Also, you can remain her friend and begin to show your sexuality. Don't compliment her with sweet nothings anymore. Don't compliment her at all, you are already in the "friend zone" by doing that. If you have to compliment, make it with a sexual tone. Any compliment you give make sure its you showing sexual interest. Don't hit on her, don't ask her on a date. Just be sexual in a friendly manner. Eventually she will relate you to sexuality. ( there is no promise this will change her thoughts of you but it's a worth a shot) But in all honesty, it could take a long time.


If you value her friendship, and nothing seems to be working, perhaps it's wise to keep her as a friend and move on to millions of other women on this planet.

Sometimes a woman will never be attracted to you, for whatever her reasons, it's just not in the cards. I have had this happen to me several times, and no matter how sweet/bad ass/romantic/gentleman I was, nothing worked. I tried everything! but nothing worked.

But! it was for the best because I ended up becoming genuine friends with them, had I had sex with them, we probably would not be friends today. And truth be told, over the years, she has introduced me to some sexy ass women. It's never a bad thing to have good looking female friends.

Sometimes women are just not attracted to you that way. The sooner you accept it and don't take it personal, the better off you will be.



Future Reference: If you are going to start off becoming friends with a girl that you are attracted to, that's ok. But what is important is her perception of you. You must always be showing sexuality and a sexual interest in her. Even if you are not hitting on her directly, be sure to demonstrate your physicality with other women, especially around her. The less interest you show in her during this, the better the odds of her showing it to you.

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Thanks TX you're a sweetheart

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