I think you misunderstood my reply a little.

You may need to ask her why she isn't giving head. Create a ladder (not a yes ladder, but an honesty ladder).

You: "You know I like receiving head?"
Her: "Yes."
You: "And you haven't given me head.."
Her: "I know."
You: "We've done everything but that, and I've also been there for you."
Her: "Yes, i know."
You: "Why don't you give me head?"

And you should receive a straight answer. Then it's up to you to comfort build about giving head.

You should not have to beg for it. As soon as you beg for it, you lose out because she will hold that as her power play.

And thats it, see it simple. That is the secret path, for this girl. We are going to Reno tomorrow and getting a hotel for the night. I am going to get the covo going there. Very well thought out. I think my final long step in pick up after this would be looking into Anchoring and some NLP ideas that were talked about earlier. Ill keep all the boys and girls on this thread posted about the situation with my HB8. Everything you said about defining the relationship also is a must. Honestly, I am not sure about this girl. I want her to give me head first then I will think about it. It will come soon, oh yes.

Until then, keep the thread going all. Any stories about girls who were hard to crack in the head DPT. Any amazing things you fellas did to tear down the wall, so to speak. Also, I want to know what I can do to get the best head. Apart from giving hear good foreplay and sex. And apart from giving head more often myself. Giving is always Righteous.

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I would do it a bit different, and i have had similar issues,

me: babe, we need to talk(mystery, she knows something is wrong her heart rate will raise)

hb: what is it what?

me: we need to have "an honesty session"

hb: ok

me: look i really like you and i am into you however, i feel like you are not completely meeting my sexual needs, and sex is not everything but is a very important if not the most important part of the relationship, the #1 cause of divorse after finances, is sex for a reason...we been together for x amount of months and i am not getting enough oral sex! is there is a reason for it? i want you to be 100% blunt and honest???Is there something i can do? how can we resolve this issue?


Usually is either hygiene, or she had a bad experience in the past and she is tramitezed, or she just don't like it, whatever it is you need to find out an address it... the key is to find a way for the girl to be BLUNT AND HONEST.....

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it is useful?

It is a good idea to point out that this type of action works well with a good inner game. Telling a women what to do, without being needy! You must be congruent inside with who you are first and foremost. Just food for thought.

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Not trying to advertise or anything, but it's probably relevant.

Has anyone tried "Oral fixation" a book by Michael Fiore(?) about getting a girl to be addicted to giving head.

Can anyone give me feed back if they have tried it please.

silly! do not waste your money, but i have not read the book, it just sounds ridiculous... Some women love giving head, some women hate giving hate, some women will do it if they feel like or to please the dude...I would get sex god by rose now that is book..

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I'm orally fixated without no book lol. But I'd love to hear what this guy has to say.

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I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

BIG UPDATE. I got head from my girl. The HB8, the one that inspired this thread. She sucked it. I give the bj itself a 3 for effort, out of 10. I am way more experienced in this area. Now I have to go about getting her to do what I like in the head dpt. Which is as sloppy and messy as possible. This will be hard seeing that she does not swallow and is all germ crazy.

But yeah I wanna shout it from the top of the mountain. I GOT BLOWN, I got completely bellow average HEAD.

I told her that I would love to teach her. She got defensive and said something like "well I think I did a good job." I just smiled at her. She took like 5 min and used her hand most of the time. Her teeth scraped the sides and she did not go down far at all. She not all about the cum in and around her mouth.

She was a tough egg to crack. But I used all the advice you guys gave me from you own experiences regarding "meeting my sexual needs talk." Now I am like "go ahead and suck it, you will get real wet babe." And of course she does.

Anyways, I am just happy that she did it. She is a good girl who acts like she has no clue. So I think that is the case. I am still taking it slow with her seeing her about 3 times a week. Hey 4 real, thanks 2 everyone in this thread, you guys are awesome. Let there be HEAD!!

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"meeting my sexual needs talk" was my advise.. you are welcome...the way you brought it up i would love to teach her was weak, you have to compliment her and say she was the best bj you ever had, so she can try harder, nina hartley have some videos on how to give head, and there a some other ones pm me if you want me to send them to you since i do not want to get ban, keep reinforcing good behavior "shit baby that was the best head i ever had, but i told you that so it does not get to your head, i am so lucky to have a girl that loves sucking dick or makes an efford most girls would not have done what you did" then send her in facebook a link to the giving head videos pm me.....

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4 sure. Thanks Skills360, rep rep for that tip. Gotta give the respect where respect is do. Thanks again bro.

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How do you mean? Besides regular practice of course. Like is there some sex course or something? (Not a bad business idea by the way where it is legal)

Yes there is a pua book called sex god by daniel rose, i highly recommend it...

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I've read some of David Shade, which is good stuff. I think that there are plenty of good books to read out there. I mean the biggest problem is most guys never learn the anatomy of a woman, they never know what spots to hit.

I would listen to skills360, I've never read the book, but he knows what he's talking about. For me it's not too hard to be a selfless communicative sex partner, and those are the biggest problems with bad sex, selfishness(such as not giving head), and communicating(such as not telling you what they like or if they hate something).

Educate yourself on the anatomy(what spots to hit/what spots to miss), learn to read when someone enjoys something, be selfless, and communicate well. You can also learn all the taboo stuff but each girl is different. I've met girls who have loved having their hair pulled and others who hated it. Some girls love when you bite and others hate it.

I will say the hips, shoulder, and neck are almost always on par(though some girls like when you put your hand around their neck like your or actually choking her). I guess I've read some, and learned a lot more through just experience. I am lucky enough to be good friends with more then a few girls(I rarely have fall outs with girls I want to keep around, even after messing around and going toward friendship), so I've had girls show me how they like their hair pulled, neck grabbed, hip grip, light touch, etc. As a plus it also built tons of sexual tension with girls I hadn't messed around with and I knew how to push their buttons.

Basically ask girls most of the time(the right type of conversation not necessarily a good open) and they will let you know, though I will say not all girls are educated in sex. I came across more then a few girls who believed girls can't cum without clitoral stimulation. If they can't that is merely a mental block, not your fault. Same as rape victims who have trouble getting to orgasm you don't ask them to cum, you merely tell them you want to make them feel good. Then they cum on their own because they don't try to orgasm they just allow themselves to climax and have an orgasms. Gain your knowledge from a wide range of girls. Don't ever focus on what just one woman likes.

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