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Ok, before I go into details of last nights episode, I'd like to update on a couple things that happened earlier in the week that ole Hanky is neglecting to post. Hank is gaming a MIDGET!! Yes, thats right. He met her earlier in the week at a bar in his area and got her number. She is actually surprisingly cute and I'm slightly jealous. I mean, thats a once in a lifetime opportunity...to bang a midget. I'm pulling for him.

Thursday night he and I hit the bars by his house and was a complete sausage fest. The guy to girl ratio was horrible. There just weren't any sets to open. The bars were packed with military dudes. However, towards the end of the night, a 2 set literally fell into our laps. We were sitting down chatting when this girl walks in carrying her VERY drunk friend who was very cute. She stumbles and just sits right down in Hank's lap. He wasted no time and started talking to her. Her friend sits down with us (she was not attractive) and I go ahead and start gaming her to give Hank some time with the HB. Not that it was even necessary, she was so completely wasted there was a 99% success rate. Hank takes advantage and gets the number. Texted her the next day and she had no idea who he was and didn't remember any of last night lol.

Friday Night

JSmooth pretty much covered the night, so I'm not going to reiterate everything he said. Instead I'll just go into some details about what I did.

When Hank and I got to The Underground, our bartender was working so we talked to her and got our drinks while we waited for JSmooth and my buddy Zack. I did some magic for her and kinoed a lot. When Hank and JSmooth opened the 2 set, I mostly stayed out to allow them to run their game. I entered the set only when I was brought in. Once I was brought in, then I would occasionally speak or address either of the girls. When my buddy Zack showed up, me and him talked and we would talk to the girls whenever they addressed us. The few times I talked and joked with Nikki, she seemed pretty cold to me and I genuinely thought she was not into me at all. She was a tough read. Later on, JSmooth told me he wasn't getting any headway and gave me the ok to give it a try. He also said he noticed her giving me some IOI's. Hank then told me to jump on her and try and liven her up because she was bringing Mandy down and Hank was afraid she was going try and get them to bail. So I threw Hank my phone, grabbed Nikki, pulled her in close, and told Hank to get a picture. It worked. Her mood instantly changed and we were all back to having fun.

At the next bar, I mostly built rapport and comfort. Asked her questions to get her to qualify to me. JSmooth pulled me aside and let me know what he was seeing and what I should be doing. He suggested bouncing somewhere to eat and also told me to quit playing around and isolate for the kiss.

I suggested to everyone getting something to eat after this. The girls wanted to hit one more bar first. So we did. While we were there, Nikki had gone to get a drink. As I was talking to my buddy, I looked over at the bar and noticed a guy hitting on her. I walked over right between them, placing the guy on my back shoulder and addressed her. Once she had her drink, I grabbed her hand and pulled her away. Shortly after this, I isolated.

When we were isolated, I ran the cube on her. She loved it and then I did the Mystery kiss close.

ME: Do you want to kiss me?
HER: I don't know. big smile Do you want to kiss me?
ME: grinning as I shrug Maybe...
HER: You asked me. Why did...

I never let her finish the rest of the sentence. I grabbed her by the back of her hair, pulled her in, and kissed her. From that point on, it was clear she was way into me. Oh, and I number closed her after the kiss lol.

Fast foward to their place, logistics weren't in our favor for a full close. There were 2 other roommates there (guys) and it was clear Nikki was not comfortable getting to business on the couch in the living room...especially since the roommates would occasionaly walk out during the night. I've already arrange to see her again this week and hopefully get the close. Hank didn't close his either, because she was too drunk and passed out lol.

It was a good night and I had a lot of fun. JSmooth was a big help with his coaching. Look forward to our next night out. For now, I need to answer this text from Nikki...


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As LeDuke broke, I am trying to game a cute midget. She flaked on me once and has been kinda short in her texts for the last couple of days, so I've decided to quit hitting her up. I'll just run into her at a certain bar and be nice, but have plenty of social proof and try jealousy game.

Now here's my (hilarious) fuck up.
Yesterday I send this text to LeDuke:

Working on a day 2 w/Mandy. Midget is on freeze out status.

As soon as I hit send, I realized....I hadn't sent it to LeDuke, I sent it to Mandy :shock: (Mandy from the last FR).
Now how the hell would I explain that strange, cryptic text?
I immediately sent her this text:

Haha. Wrong person. I bet that read weird! Just assume it's circus talk. LeDuke and I are carnies.

LeDuke made up a good story for me, explaining what I meant, if it comes up again. Hopefully she doesn't think I'm a complete weirdo...
I'll update, IF I get a day 2.

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Updates have been slow due to the holidays and our work schedules. I've been out a couple of times. Here are the highlights:

Tried the 60 yr handshake and ended up holding the girl's hand for over 5 minutes! My friend, who is not up on the PUA thing at all, was just amazed. There was a good connection between her and I. A large group of us ended up back at my homie's place. That's when I saw her under normal lighting :shock: Her mustache was thicker than mine! Bar lighting and heavy make up did her wonders. Under the cold, hard, living room light...I put myself firmly into friendzone!

Oh, and apparently the midget is married. When I texted her to see if she would be out, she responed "No, I have marraige councelling tonight".

That night I went semi-direct with a cute bartender at a place where I have mad social proof. After a couple of flirty exchanges, I was paying my tab.
HB: So what do you do for a living?
Me: Why are you getting all personal? Are you hitting on me?
Her: laughter Uh, no....but...
Me: What's your story? You got a man? You seeing someone or what?
Her: pause, eyes looking up Uh, yeah.
Me: haha, that pause told everything I need to know. Say no more.
Her: Well, I mean, it's not serious or anything, but it's been 7 months
Me: I've heard enough, please let's move on.
Her: So are you a graphic designer or accountant or what?
Me: I tell you what, when you're not seeing anyone, or you're just sick of him, holler at me & we'll have a rivoting conversation about what I do. It's interesting, believe me.

I wink and smile. She smiles and blushes. I roll out, happy that the stage is set for our future interactions and she knows my interest but also knows I'm not needy or pushy. My usual behavior at this particular bar will work into good jealousy game.

I'm probably going to a very unique party for NYE. Odds of a midnight f-close are better than average.

LeDuke and I will be hard at it it 2012.

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Can't wait to hang with you guys some more in 2012. :)

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Sure thing, J! LeDuke and I will be out together every Thrusday. One or both of us will also be out Fridays & Saturdays. We'd love to kick it out with you more this year. 2012, here we come!

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Jesus you guys have an awesome dynamic together. I wish I had some wings with half your talent. When I'm next in the states I'll definitely drop you guys a message.


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Jesus you guys have an awesome dynamic together. I wish I had some wings with half your talent. When I'm next in the states I'll definitely drop you guys a message.
Feel free to bro!

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After become familiar with the forum and spending some time on other journals, I notice two things I want to avoid. Many FR's either don't have enough info for me to get a good bead on what happened, wrong or right, or they simply read like a bragging post. With that in mind, I'm going to try to give more detailed field reports from now on. I'm sorry if I ramble...

How PUA techniques helped me bring attraction back:
Let me tell you about K. K is a cutie (7.5) with the best ass I've ever seen on a white girl. I met her a few months ago; before I ever even heard of the game and while I had a serious girlfriend. The attraction was mutual. We hung out twice. We flirted heavily, but that’s as far as it went. Since I have become single, and an aspiring PUA, she’s been a total flake; always finding convenient excuses not to hang out. It seemed the window of opportunity had passed and I was about to just forget her. Instead, I heeded some advice and left her in the rotation of girls I text every so often to meet up.

Thursday, I was planning on meeting up with some friends so I text several girls: Tonight. Cocktails. 9:00.

K is the first to respond: I’m broke till payday, so cocktails are out for me. Next time!
Me: Ok. Hey, if you want to get out, I’ll cover you tonight. If not, I’ll bug you again in a couple of weeks. Lol
Her: That sounds great actually. See you at 9!

I have crazy social proof with this particular group of friends. They are “kind of a big deal” in certain circles in my city. K arrives before them and seems a little impressed and nervous when I tell her who we’re meeting.

When they get there, we fall right into our usual quick rapport. I basically ignore K for the first hour and just cut up with my friends to the point (as usual) several of us are wiping away tears from laughing so hard. By that point, K is watching me closely and giving me IOI’s any time I say anything to her. When Tenacious D played, I quoted Jack Black saying “But what if she’s not into the hard fucking?”. K grabbed my hand and told me that if a girl says “no” shyly or playfully, she really means “take it”. I used the hot/cold theory on her by rubbing her hand and palm while teasing her, saying “Come at me, bro. Tell me more of your cool stories.”

At some point in the conversation, we all agreed that Freddie Mercury had an amazing voice. This is pivotal in a moment.

Social proof and basically just being fun and confident, coupled with a little cat string theory, worked like magic.
Eventually, it was time to escalate. I walked K to the restroom and waited for her to come out. As she came out, Somebody to Love by Queen started playing. I stopped her from walking directly back to the group.
Me: Listen, they’re playing our song
Her: We don’t have a song, silly!
Me: Yes we do. Listen, Freddie is singing to us.
Her: Oh yeah! But how does that make it our song?
Me, pushing her gently against the wall: Because it’s the first song we ever made out to.

She melted into me as I moved in for the kiss. We spent the next several minutes making out right there! Wow, she's a good kisser. We got very sensual very quickly.

Soon after, my friends left us alone and we here making out heavily on a couch at the back of the bar. She tells me how badly she wants to feel me inside her :D but wants to get to know me better first. :?
Me: That’s probably a good idea
Her: Yeah, I really want to fuck but I need to know you better. I’m nervous
Me: What exactly are you so worried about?
Her: What if I start to like you a lot?
Me: What if you do? Grown people are allowed to like each other a lot, aren’t they?
Her: Yeah, I just don’t know. I’m unsure.
Me: It’s settled then. Nothing will ever happen between us that we are both not 100% comfortable with.

She smiled and kissed me. She doesn’t want to fall for a player. I get it.

Now here’s the turning point. I think I played it well, but you can judge for yourself.

Her: It’s getting late and you have a long way to drive. You can crash on my couch if you want.
Me: Oh no. When I go home with you, I’m sleeping in your bed. Until then, I’ll be in my own.
Her: Awwww.

I know, I know; that was probably just plausible deniability on her part. We both know I wouldn’t be on the couch if I went home with her. My concern was buyer’s remorse. I didn’t want her to wake up the next day, blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alcohol and not want to see me again. I didn’t want a one nighter with this girl, I’d prefer a semi-regular thing for a while. She’s the type of gal I want to sleep with much more than once.

We met briefly the next morning for coffee and it seems my game was tight because she hadn’t cooled down at all. I was pretty direct and she was flirty, turning the conversation very sexual several times. We agreed that I would give her oral sex lessons, as she isn’t sure if she’s been doing it right! I’ll try to get her to cook me breakfast later this week.

So, I’m pretty much in there. I’ll update when it happens.

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Saturday night out with Jumper and Dee
I meet up downtown with Jumper and another guy I haven’t met before. His name is Dee and he’s new to PU. He’s green but excited. I open a few sets just to get the juices flowing. I had established inside jokes with two sets by the time Dee opens up a 2 set (HB5 & HB7) outside in the smoking area.

Again, Dee is green. He has absolutely no calibration. What he lacks in that, he makes up for in balls. He opened all night, just seemed to stall out after just a few minutes.

Okay, back to the 2 set. He opened them with some canned relationship opener about a friend. Apparently, I was the friend. The 7 had her bitch shield up and responded with “My advice is to not get into a relationship!” It looked like the 5 was Dee’s target, but he wasn’t hip to the secret signal LeDuke, Jumper and I use to identify targets. I see the 5 is locking in to Dee. By the way, she’s only a 5 because her face is pretty busted, but she has the body of a 7+. I entered the set and jumped on the 7 with the bitch shield, initially just to get her away from Dee and the 5.

Me: What do you mean, don’t get into a relationship? **I pulled her out of the set as I asked that, so our backs were to Dee and the 5.
Her: I’ve been in a lot of bad ones. Guys are all liars.
Okay, I see what’s happening here. She’s going to be that girl. The one who hates men…I sense a recent break up here.
Me: Heeey, that’s not accurate. People sometimes lie, girl or guy.
Her: Yeah, but…
Me: No buts. It’s true. Women lie, men lie. It’s who we are. Being lied to yesterday is no reason to be nasty today.

That gets through a little bit. We banter like that for a few more minutes and her bitch shield literally melted before my eyes. I found out that her and her friend are from New York and she was starting work as a server across the street next week. She was smiling and touching her hair. I pointed at Jumper and said “that’s my friend Jumper. I love that guy. Believe it or not, he’s completely deaf.” She looks at me then at him. He waives and doesn’t say a word. Haha.
Then I spin her around so her back is to him and I pull her closer to me.
Me: I have to be honest, since you were just on your big guys lie kick. He’s not deaf. We were joking.
She crosses her arms and looks at me suspiciously, but only playing. I physically unfold her arms and pull her closer, saying:No, no, no. That’s now how we do things here in the South. We’re nice. Unfold those arms. Good. Now raise your eyebrows back up. Nice.
She breaks into a HUGE smile.
Me: See? Isn’t that better? It feels good being nice, doesn’t it?

We talk a bit about cool spots around the city. I tell her I can show her where the locals hang out.

Me: Take out your phone.
Her, showing me the pic on her phone: That’s my cat
Me: Oh, he’s beautiful. Oh my. I have to tell you, I’m in love with him. No really, I recently had to get rid of my cat, whom I adored, and I’m still a little torn up about it.
Her: Oooh, that’s so sad. What happened?
Me: Oh, I work long hours so…
Her: Yeah, they need attention.
Me: Exactly.

I turn to Jumper and say, loud enough so everyone around us heard:

Hey, she just showed me a picture of her pussy! Really, just now. & it’s beautiful!

She was cracking up and slapping me, telling me to shut up!

Me: Okay, put my # in. Hit me up when you want me to show you the city
Her: I’m calling it now, so you have mine. You hit me up, but only if you’re serious about showing me around.
Me: Darling, I’m always serious.
Again, she slaps my arm and tells me to shut up.

Dee and I agree to show them where a nearby diner is. It becomes obvious that they want to eat by themselves, so we say our goodbyes. I made them both kiss my cheek before I we left; the 5 first. The 7 then planted a very nice, soft kiss on my cheek.

We’ve texted a couple of times and became FB friends. I invited her out to an event next Monday. She said if she doesn’t have to work, she’d love to come out.

End of FR

LeDuke and I will be back out together again Friday…finally! He hasn’t been out gaming since our last duel FR, mainly because he’s been distracted by the gal he picked up. I’m glad he had success but damn, I’ll be glad to have my wing back! 2012 will be a year to remember…

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BRAVO! BRAVO! :D Sounds like you guys are doing really well. Sorry about throwing LeDuke on that girl, if I hadn't done that then maybe you'd have your wing back. It's all my fault...

Anyways, I have a date this Thursday night which means I'm free Friday, but have to be up early Saturday. I might have to hit you guys up and see what you all are up to. :)

I definitely agree that you should try and be as detailed as possible in your field reports. Especially the first 50 or so. After a while it becomes and old hat and you know what you said or routine you ran for the most part. Just the venue and some of the social dynamics change. It really does help you to be detailed to see what could have been done better or changed. Plus it's nice to look back on a year or so later.

Great job out there man!

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Nice updates Hank. Lol, JSmooth...don't sweat it man. Ole girl wasn't the only reason I wasn't able to go out. With the holidays, I was busy with family and work as was Hank. It's time now to get back into full swing. Looking forward to Friday.


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Update

Location: Bars in Nashville area

Players: LeDuke, Hank Panky, & Jumper

Alright so last night Hank and I finally hit the town. We went to our usual jump off spot where we already have good rapport with the bartenders and doorman. There was a pretty big set at the bar, like around 6 or 7 girls all ranging from 7 and up (minus the one grenade). Two of the girls were turned out from the group and just talking to each other (both 7's). I decided I'd open them first and possibly work my way into the group.

When I approached, I'll say my frame and subtext was a little weak. I need to work on that, but Hank said I had really good body language. I hit them with an opinion opener which hooked pretty well. We talked, I negged a bit, displayed C/F, and kino'ed a bit. One thing I realized after the fact was my eye contact wasn't very good. Overall though I think I ran the set pretty well. I honestly can't remember a whole lot that was said because I didn't really use any routines. The only one I used was the best friends test which didn't seem like it did much. One of them was pretty drunk. Eventually, 2 more joined in the convo and before you know it we were all taking pictures together. The set was going really well until one of their friends got on stage and started performing. She sucked the energy right from me. At the point the girls were way to focused on watching their friend perform and there was little I could do to keep their attention.

Hank, however, was REALLY digging the girl on stage. He was starstruck. If he was ever going to get oneitis, it'd be with this girl. So, we stuck around til she got done so he could open her. When she finally got off stage, Hank wasted no time in approaching. Got her number within 45 seconds. I'll let Hank post the details of the convo as I wasn't near him when it happened. After that we bounced to another club which kind of sucked so we decided to hit another one of our hot spots and meet up with Jumper.

Next bar

This was the first time I've met Jumper. He's pretty smooth and laid back. The bar was jam packed. Practically shoulder to shoulder, but we got lucky enough to snag a table. We were mostly just talking among ourselves not really looking for targets due to it being so crowded when opportunity was placed on our table. A girl (bout an HB6) placed her drink right on our table and then turned her back to us. Oops...she had no idea. When she turned back around...

Hank: Hey, I just want you to know we rufied your drink. You've got 2 hours until it's lights out.
HB6: What? You rufied my drink?
Jumper: Yea, but don't worry. From here on the party really starts for you.

We bantered with her for a while when another young gentleman joined us. Turns out this guy bought her the drink that we claimed to rufie lol. She pretty much stayed at our table the entire time. The guy kept coming over trying to pull her back, but she was hooked. At one point the dude brought all his friends over to help him get her away from us I guess, but it just didn't work. We just invited them in and played like we really could care less if she left the table. Jumper arm wrestled her and told one of the guys to kiss her hand before they started lol. As the bar was closing, I number closed her in front of the guy that bought her drink. Poor fella...didn't cost me a dime.

After that, Hank met up with another girl he's been working. I'm sure he got the close. Hopefully he'll post his update soon.


Notes to self
Work on frame control and subtext when entering a set.
Keep a confident and calm demeanor as if I'm already in the set
Eye contact. Stronger eye contact
Although kino was better, still need to work on it

I'm tired and thats all I can think of. Hopefully Hank will have more to contribute as I'm sure I left something out.

-LeDuke


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My contribution to the FR from last night:
LeDuke ran a great set. Yeah, it went south once the friend started to perform, but I saw better body language and over all confidence than I've seen out of him yet. 3 second rule? No problem last night!

Jumper's frame in the face of those fella's trying to AMOG us was brilliant. So calm. He actually chased 'em away by inviting them in. They just wandered off...without the girl.

I'm a little busy for a full report on the # close of the singer (swoon!) and my FULL CLOSE with K (from earlier FR)....I'll update with details on Sunday. I can say this; that ass is even better w/out clothes!

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Hey guys I want to join y'all on this. I'm going to take a 30 day challenge

I'm in Nashville right now

who wants to take this with me?

I'm a college student here, i need someone to force me out of my comfort zone and I'm not at the point of letting my fraternity brothers and stuff know what i'm doing

i'm working on more to become naturally attractive

I reached a high 2 months ago...but i didn't go out for a while and regressed a bit


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# closing the singer
As LeDuke pointed out, I was completely star struck by this gal. I had actually pointed her out to him when we first arrived. I liked her hair and her style. When she got on stage, it was over for me. Every man has his weakness, and girls like her are mine!

The # close wasn’t too much of a close, actually. As an aside, I don’t really like the term # close, but I find myself using it.

I approached her and told her she was amazing. I looked her in the eye. She was much more gracious than I anticipated. She smiled a real smile and hugged me. I then used some pretty typical Nashville music related stuff to get her to offer me her #!!

Now that’s the good news. The bad news is, honestly getting #’s like that is pretty common. It doesn’t mean much. I’ll say it’s 50/50 if she even answers a call or text. I’ll be calling her as soon as I post this to invite her to an event tomorrow night… Here’s hoping!!


Closing K
I’ll tell you right off the bat, this gal’s ASD was off the scales.

As I said in the earlier FR about her, I asked her to cook me breakfast one day this week. We agreed on Friday. She prepared an absolute feast! We ate then hung out for a bit until she had to go to work. She told me that we could hang out later, if she got off work early enough.

**Time bridge

As LeDuke, Jumper and I are wrapping up our night, she texts telling me she’s off work and when I’m done with my friends, I’m welcome to come over to her house if I want. It was very late when I arrived. We had a couple of shots of Southern Comfort and retired to her bedroom where we kissed, fondled, stroked, fingered aaaaaand…slept. Her ASD was strong again. I didn’t push the issue, but had a feeling that it would happen the next morning.

We spent the early hours of the next morning snuggling, petting and dozing. At one point, her hand went to my junk. I kissed her neck and held her hand there when she tried to move it. This really turned her on. Eventually, I just removed her panties. Her ASD had weakened. All she could muster was one, weak “What are you doing?” as she lifted her butt up so I could slide her underwear down. I mounted her and whispered in her ear “I think it about time this happened” as I entered her. She gasped and agreed!

We had sex for the rest of the morning until she had to get ready for work. As I was leaving, she said she hopes I’ll stay over again soon!

Summary
The PU phases were all very distinct for this close, with comfort building coming back a few times just prior to the close. Cat string theory and social proof gained attraction. Comfort and having a strong frame were very important after that. Then just knowing when the moment was right and being confident enough to act on it, paid off.

The best part is, no (false) promises were made. I’m remaining self aware. I didn’t become so fixed on closing that I compromised my own frame or mistook my own intentions.

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