This seems like a decent saying to live by no? Too many people (including myself) on this forum seem to post picking apart every detail of an interaction with a woman. Isn't this kinda AFCish, rather than just ballsin up, guys are almost looking for a reason to not ask a woman out by coming here and posting.

Now I'm not talking about going up to random women and being "hey wanna go out..." etc... But when you're having a good time talking to a woman and its going well, and you are on the fence about her intentions. Rather than coming here and posting to see whats up, just ask her out.

So from now on I'm going to live by the saying "When in doubt, ask her out".

I am NOT a PUA, so maybe people with more experience can let me know if my logic is flawed or if I'm missing something when it comes to this stuff.

Also this wasn't meant to be a rant post, just an observation I had about the situation.

I think this is an excellent idea, and something I need to stick to more often.

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I'm not sure by what you mean when you say the title phrase.

You state: "when you're having a good time talking to a woman and its going well, and you are on the fence about her intentions. Rather than coming here and posting to see whats up, just ask her out." That's a pretty nice advice, but it's rather obvious logic. One comes here to better his chances of things going well,so that he can get the desired reponse from his targets. That includes hearing "yes" when he asks them out.b]

Some people here are not as skilled at gauging interest as others. Until they learn how to effectively predict their success when asking specific targets out, I see no problem with them asking for help. Your assessment that people are coming on here looking for a reason to not ask women out is an uninformed generalization. There may be some people here who fit that description, but it is unfair to group the majority of the forum into that category because they are unsure of what moves to make in their specific situations.

Your words "just ballsin up" are very subjective. I would argue that any man who approaches a woman whom he does not know is "ballsin up".

Begging for help with no intent of becoming able to function independently is something of which I definitely disapprove.However, there's nothing wrong with asking for insight in an effort to become self-sufficient.

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"Simple. Escalate, if she's into you, she will escalate with you, if not, you will know soon enough." - SexAddict911

why the fuck are you not talking about this???, COLD APPROACH, it is essentially what you should be doing, if you got no girls, go out and fucking do this, what ever method, what ever style, doesn't matter, then conversation should end with some variation of the above, the more the benefits for her outweigh the risks the better,

''HEY YOU ARE REALLY COOL, I LOVED TALKING TO YOU, I GOT TO GO, BUT YOU SEEM COOL, LETS GO GET A DRINK NEXT WEEK, GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER ILL TEXT YOU *PULLS OUT PHONE*''

[quote="pumpington"][quote="Yanks2010"]This seems like a decent saying to live by no? Too many people (including myself) on this forum seem to post picking apart every detail of an interaction with a woman. Isn't this kinda AFCish, rather than just ballsin up, guys are almost looking for a reason to not ask a woman out by coming here and posting.

[b]Now I'm not talking about going up to random women and being "hey wanna go out..." etc... [/b]But when you're having a good time talking to a woman and its going well, and you are on the fence about her intentions. Rather than coming here and posting to see whats up, just ask her out.

So from now on I'm going to live by the saying "When in doubt, ask her out".

I am NOT a PUA, so maybe people with more experience can let me know if my logic is flawed or if I'm missing something when it comes to this stuff.

Also this wasn't meant to be a rant post, just an observation I had about the situation.[/quote]

why the fuck are you not talking about this???, COLD APPROACH, it is essentially what you should be doing, if you got no girls, go out and fucking do this, what ever method, what ever style, doesn't matter, then conversation should end with some variation of the above, the more the benefits for her outweigh the risks the better,

''HEY YOU ARE REALLY COOL, I LOVED TALKING TO YOU, I GOT TO GO, BUT YOU SEEM COOL, LETS GO GET A DRINK NEXT WEEK, GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER ILL TEXT YOU *PULLS OUT PHONE*''[/quote]

I agree, but it wasnt the point of my post. the point was people coming on here talking about a certain situation with a woman, and it just seems to me that it can make the situation more complicated than it needs to be. now the guy is thinking "ok im with the girl, is she giving me eye contact, while playing with her hair and whistling, but only if its raining out, and if its sunday she has to be humming" i exaggerate but its what i'm trying to get at.

It should be kept simple. I am not saying this site is useless. It has a lot of good information. But for people that come here to "check" before they do anything with a certain woman, is where my questioning comes on.

Clearly, you've made up your mind and don't really plan on changing it. You totally ignored my post because I disagreed with you. Thanks for wasting my time.

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"Simple. Escalate, if she's into you, she will escalate with you, if not, you will know soon enough." - SexAddict911

[quote="GetFamiliar"][quote="Yanks2010"][quote="pumpington"][quote="Yanks2010"]This seems like a decent saying to live by no? Too many people (including myself) on this forum seem to post picking apart every detail of an interaction with a woman. Isn't this kinda AFCish, rather than just ballsin up, guys are almost looking for a reason to not ask a woman out by coming here and posting.

[b]Now I'm not talking about going up to random women and being "hey wanna go out..." etc... [/b]But when you're having a good time talking to a woman and its going well, and you are on the fence about her intentions. Rather than coming here and posting to see whats up, just ask her out.

So from now on I'm going to live by the saying "When in doubt, ask her out".

I am NOT a PUA, so maybe people with more experience can let me know if my logic is flawed or if I'm missing something when it comes to this stuff.

Also this wasn't meant to be a rant post, just an observation I had about the situation.[/quote]

why the fuck are you not talking about this???, COLD APPROACH, it is essentially what you should be doing, if you got no girls, go out and fucking do this, what ever method, what ever style, doesn't matter, then conversation should end with some variation of the above, the more the benefits for her outweigh the risks the better,

''HEY YOU ARE REALLY COOL, I LOVED TALKING TO YOU, I GOT TO GO, BUT YOU SEEM COOL, LETS GO GET A DRINK NEXT WEEK, GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER ILL TEXT YOU *PULLS OUT PHONE*''[/quote]

I agree, but it wasnt the point of my post. the point was people coming on here talking about a certain situation with a woman, and it just seems to me that it can make the situation more complicated than it needs to be. now the guy is thinking "ok im with the girl, is she giving me eye contact, while playing with her hair and whistling, but only if its raining out, and if its sunday she has to be humming" i exaggerate but its what i'm trying to get at.

It should be kept simple. I am not saying this site is useless. It has a lot of good information. But for people that come here to "check" before they do anything with a certain woman, is where my questioning comes on.[/quote]

Clearly, you've made up your mind and don't really plan on changing it. You totally ignored my post because I disagreed with you. Thanks for wasting my time.[/quote]

I agree with your post, but it had nothing to do with my OP. Which is why i tried saying, when you say i totally ignored your post.

Dont be so touchy with people that are not even being aggressive. The ladies probably wont find it attractive

This would be a better fit in the inner-game subsection.

Your advice is true, guys do need to just boss the fuck up sometimes, but for some, that's easier said than done.

It had everything to do with your OP. Either you didn't comprehend my post, or you unabashedly ignored it.

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"Simple. Escalate, if she's into you, she will escalate with you, if not, you will know soon enough." - SexAddict911

Then i missed what you meant by the post. Also, sorry about the messy quotes, i dont know whats happening, im hitting the "quote" button