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 Post subject: There is no answer
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:02 pm 
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Someone in chat linked this to me. There is no answer to this. I read this and thought to myself that this story is meant to F with your mind ( or you "enlightened" ones may say it's made to make you think)...Ultimately everyone dies so his choice doesnt really matter, the monkey is picking his brain, probably getting him all upset and none of it really matters.


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 Post subject: Re: There is no answer
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:58 pm 
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Someone in chat linked this to me. There is no answer to this. I read this and thought to myself that this story is meant to F with your mind ( or you "enlightened" ones may say it's made to make you think)...Ultimately everyone dies so his choice doesnt really matter, the monkey is picking his brain, probably getting him all upset and none of it really matters.
Read through all the shit here. There is an answer it is just supposed to be searched in a different way than we're used to think. I don't know the answer... I now really know nothing about this koan. (which...according to our "mentors" here is good btw) But I've come to the realisation that there must be a way out if this trap, because the trap is just an illusion, created by our egos that try to justify this whole situation. Which is completely unnecessary and counterproductive. It distracts us from the true answer.

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I don't have to choose it's not my problem its the boys problem.

job done?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:07 am 
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This is easy. Either of the two is the correct answer. The only wrong answer - is thinking about it. You have all failed!


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im the same as elliot, its not my problem its the boys dilemma i cannot think for him.. letting go of what i cant control..freeing the mind lol..


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:01 am 
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I MOTHERFUCKING GOT IT!!!!

Finally after two months it´s all so clear, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of deep answer, but it is super simple.

Here it is, but I wrote it backwards so It´s not a spoiler for people who want to solve it: yeknom eht dnuow I

See, this way fate makes the decision, so the boy can leave in peace.

YES!!!

take care! :D

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I don't have to choose it's not my problem its the boys problem.

job done?
why dont you ask the monkey

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I MOTHERFUCKING GOT IT!!!!

Finally after two months it´s all so clear, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of deep answer, but it is super simple.

Here it is, but I wrote it backwards so It´s not a spoiler for people who want to solve it: yeknom eht dnuow I

See, this way fate makes the decision, so the boy can leave in peace.

YES!!!

take care! :D
after 2 months thats what you came up with? take another 2 months then try again...

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im the same as elliot, its not my problem its the boys dilemma i cannot think for him.. letting go of what i cant control..freeing the mind lol..
Elliot... the boy... why dont you answer for yourself for once

letting go... giving up...

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BB,

There is a circle. If you go inside the circle you will be hit. If you stay outside the circle, you will be hit. What do you do? PM me . . .


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There is a circle. If you go inside the circle you will be hit. If you stay outside the circle, you will be hit. What do you do? PM me . . .
Is it correct that you either are inside the circle or outside the circle? I don't know, this silly riddle makes me doubt even the most basic things...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:23 pm 
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Can someone clear this up for me?

I'm gonna guess it's, don't stop, don't think, shoot the monkey and embrace whatever happens next?


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BB,

There is a circle. If you go inside the circle you will be hit. If you stay outside the circle, you will be hit. What do you do? PM me . . .
Is it correct that you either are inside the circle or outside the circle? I don't know, this silly riddle makes me doubt even the most basic things...
:)

At its most basic I think the question represents that you are outside it...
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go inside
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stay outside
Keep at it

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:48 am 
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I'll Kill the Monkey and then PM ZAC L to get enlightened

Waiting there aiming at the monkey forever will keep both parents alive. But I'll always have a doubt in my mind whether what the monkey said is true or not - how do I find out without losing sight of my goal. And by waiting aimlessly I don't get any more enlightened

By going back I'll lose a parent anyways

I made the decision to kill - So I'll kill. As a hunter I could have thought of every scenario but now that I'm faced with a situation I never knew could existed I'll look to cut my loses and reach my goal


So I'll Kill the Monkey


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There is a circle. If you go inside the circle you will be hit. If you stay outside the circle, you will be hit. What do you do? PM me . . .
Go inside the circle. No one ever reached their goals without getting hit. If the Goal is good (getting inside the circle in this case) then a bad scenario will not derail me.


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