Happy New Years guys,

I had a question for anyone who is an expert in this environment: the gym.

As PUAs we all work to improve every area of our lives, physicality not being any exception.

I've improved over time with pick up and approach, but for some reason, the gym (an environment MANY have said is a good place to meet quality women) I can't find a good way to approach women without telegraphing interest.

Let's face it, women are used to being approached ESPECIALLY in the gym, so openers here have to be airtight.

Let's collaborate to create some dynamite fieldtested openers.

-Jackson Coltraine

I wanted to quit writing to this post and when i hit the "Back" button an awesome ideea popped in my mind.

"Hey,i have been talking with my girlfriend and she asked me what kind of gym schedule is right for a woman,what kind of workout you do?"
elaborate on the subject a lil bit
"She did this and that blah blah blah and she told me that she felt more confident do you feel confident when you exercize blah blah"

Right then she should give you something to tease on.

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i agree with debugger

What's the matter with telegraphing interest? As long as you are not needy just say you'd like to get to know her because she looked interesting, it won't go bad.

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Some interesting points, guys. I agree that there's nothing wrong with telegraphing interest, but as far as I understand it, interest should be displayed later in the game than during approach.

A question for debugger: have you picked up women whom you've told you have a girlfriend? It seems so bizarre that this would work to your advantage, but so much of the game is by nature counter-intuitive that I have an open mind.

I'm still spitballing for original ideas, so if anything comes to mind, definitely let me know!

The bold part of your text is the key statement. Telegraphing interest =/= needy. Needy=bad. Telegraphing interest...well it depends on the manner of execution. See...you don't particularly compliment her. You're just telling her that she "looked interesting" so you wanted to go there and talk to her. This will result in the followings:

1) No need to BS around. Straight up to the point.
2) Demonstrates you've got some balls.
3) She will try to qualify herself for that "looked interesting" part(she will want to prove you she's really interesting).

Of course you're not selling yourself away just like this. She still has to work hard to get you, but the entire situation is more sexual from the beginning. Sexual tension = good, and necessary for any pick-up situation.

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Can you think of any observational openers? IMO these work the best.

Why do you have to make up stories like I have a girlfriend to meet this girl? She is no better than you and would be lucky to meet you. Lying just shows how insecure you really are.

If your able to game after an opener here are some indirect openers that will work.

Song playing in the gym- "Hey excuse me, do you know the name of this song?"
Early in the morning- "Hey, you've got game!" (meaning shes committed to come this early)
In a big gym you can ask where something is which can be made humourous
If you have a belly - Hey which of these machines with help me tone this baby up!" holding your stomach.

These are just examples and the point of them is to be able to branch off afterwards if you can't do that then opening isn't your biggest problem.

Edit: Telegprahing interest i.e direct openers can be good each have their pros and cons. I recommend starting off with indirect and try direct later on see what works best for you.

Peace

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I agree with you. Altough technically for me, "What song is playing?" type openers are lies too. I'm not interested in the god damn song, I'm interested in the girl and telling otherwise is a lie. Of course for newbies I can understand that going direct can be scary(as I remember I was scared to death on my first direct approaches) and it's definitely a better idea to open with some situational stuff than lying you have a girlfriend LMAO.

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Try this:

"Are you a new year's resolution member, or trying to avoid the new year's resolution members?"
Whatever the answer is, tease her "you sure you'll still be here in February?" make sure you act playful.

If you're warming up or not in the middle of something, ask her to spot for you! She'll say one of three things:

1. I'm not a good choice for that - I'm not strong enough to lift weights if you drop them.
2. I don't know what to do.
3. I kinda have to get back to my workout.

Responses:
1. Well, at the very least i need someone to scream for help if things go wrong. Cmon.
2. I'll teach you! No harm in learning something new. Let's go.
3. It'll only take a second, safety first.

She's opened. Work your game between sets. Let her get back to her stuff after, unless she seems curious about lifting. Suggest grabbing a protein shake/smoothie at Jamba or Smoothie king after you're both done.

Damn guys, this thread was really helpful!

I agree with a lot of the information in your posts-- thanks for your advice.

I especially like the openers, "are you a New Year's Resolution Member?" Or even, "What song is playing?" which I think can be good if asked candidly.

Although I'm not good at direct openers, I am finding my game is becoming more direct and as a byproduct, less fake. I hope I make it to where you guys are in terms of cold steel ballz when approaching.

Thanks again,

Jackson Coltraine

Asking her to spot you is real good. I always laugh at HBs on funny machines, like that random leg push-down one (I only work upper body so I seriously don't know how these work).

PUA: What kind of machine is that?
HB: It's for calves.
PUA: Looks like a lot of fun.
HB: (laughs) Yeah right.
PUA: No, really. It looks like a roller coaster.

Once you've opened with something like that, run another opener or a routine (or, preferably, a spontaneous anecdote), then go finish your workout. As you're leaving come back to her and say you'd like to see her again and close. Remember eye contact and body posture, they're surprisingly much more important in this setting than how big you are! Works like a charm.

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I've found that Inge gym observational approaches work best. If I'm on the treadmill/elliptical I mention something odd or interesting that's on one of the tvs, which there almost always is. Or if my target is doing something else I'll ask what she's doing, mention a good excercise that works the same muscle, then demonstrate. The latter method really only works if you go to the gym often or actually know what you're talking about otherwise you might just come off stupid.

Nope it`s just that i love lying.

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