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We arrive at Thursdays around 2:30am because we stopped in some other bars but no set to approach.
Arrived in Thursday club, we went in free because is like 30 min before they are going to close the club. Every set around are like over 40s. Only 1 set is in the 20s.
I waited a bit to analyse the set. Was a 3 sets mixte. 2 siblings, both about 7, one was blonde and the other one dyed her hair black. The guy was obviously a suger daddy. So I decide to approach him first.
I went in look like bored.
F: Hey buddy, Having a good time here?
Guy: yea, not bad.
F: I used to work here. You come here often?
Guy: used to, but im not from Montreal.
I introduce myself then exchange names
He clearly giving me the look to go away. The girl came and give him a hug.
we exchange name.
F: you got a cute gf.
the guy was surpris then acte like what I said is true.
He just grap her by the shoulder then kiss her on the cheek. she pushed him away and went to the dance floor. I was like, now you DLV yourself.
F: I see you two are totally in love.
and went to the dance floor.
I start to talk to the girl will dancing a bit with her.
At first, she was trying to make me do the funny moves.
F: I'm not a dancing monkey but if you come i will dance with you.
She come then I spine her. That IOI #1.
I notice her bag then I start to neg about it.
F: how come your bad is so big. Do you have a cat inside?
HB : yea I do.
after 2 min, I follow her out of the dance floor.
F: Do you believe in magic?
HB: Do I believe in magic? ofcurse I do.
F: ok choose a number between 1-4.
HB: 4
I was like wtf...
F: no, keep it in your head. Let try it again.
HB: ok, I have it
F: its 3.
She look so amazed by the ESP trick.
HB: how do you do that.
F: Your mind is like an open book, I can read it.
Then her sister came and grab her away, and that girl keep telling her that I read her mind.

I went to my friends and explain them the situation. I introduce Wildgun to the group so he can occupied the guy will I isolate my target.

F: So with your accent, your surely not from montreal.
HB: We are from australia.
F: Im so sorry, I forget your name again, I know is like the third time.
HB: Not again. (big smile) Dont worry froggy, its just a name.
We small talk about how people in Canada are friendly.
Then sundently, I try to transite to comfort.
F: You know what.
HB: what?
F: you are the first girl that I ever meet that still believe in magic.
F: you are some one special.
F: when I was young, I was a total nuts about Harry Potter. Even till my first years of highschool, I waited for my letter for Hagwart.
Small talk about its important to believe into something.
HB: You know what, you actually made me believe in magic, you made tonight magical for me.
I was like wtf. All did was MM and routine with magic and I arrived about 45 min before the last call.
then I change to my palm reading routine. Explain her about the lines then I improvise will using cold reading.
F: See that seperation in your life line at the end, that mean you have to chose between 2 style of life.
HB: which one should I chose, Froggy?
F: You are a very independant and adventure person. I think you know which one you will choose.
F: Listen, I'd like to meet you again.
HB: yea would be cool.
I just thought in my head, how im gonna ask her number in front of her sugar daddy...
F: You know I'm still working here tomorrow, if you want you can still come tomorrow night.
HB: I dont think so. We are leaving this friday. But you can give me your number.
F: Its ok. maybe we will meet again somewhere.
I teach her how to french goodbye then left after a long hug.

The funny part, its later in the car. Wildgun told me that the guy was the owner of Marineland. That night give me so much motivation to continue in gaming.
I mean if I'm looking back 8-9 month ago, I would never go into a club and pickup some rich guy's girl, even talk to a girl in a bar was impossible.

I think gaming is not only about getting the girls, its about making you a better person. Some one more sociable and more viable in today's society.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:33 am 
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New Goals :

We are going to Tokyo tonight, so I need to keep approaching mixte sets. Still need to work on isolation and build comfort. hopefully, I can get pass that and get number close or kiss close.

1- Approach at least 1 mixte sets and disarm the AMOG or befriend him.
2- Thrown in at least 2 negs per sets.
3- Try to Isolate at least 1 set.
4- Number close at least 1 set.

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Date: 5 January 2012

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Café Campus & Tokyo (Noisy Night Club)

I open about 4 set at campus, I will make is short.

First one was a warm-up set.
Wildgun was not arrive yet, Me and Valentyn are talking about his lay report by the bar. Just beside me a guy with a girl, 7HB.
I talk directly to the guy.
F: Hey what are you guys getting?
G: 4 Tequila shoots.
F: Nice, Listen, I dig your blazer. looks a lot like mines. I like your style.
G: thx
I introduce myself, then just what MM said, he introduce me to the girl. Instant DHV giving by him.
We small talk a bit about his background.
Valentyn approach the girl so I end up doing the wing thing, occupied the dude for like 4-5 min.
Set got away when Wildgun arrived.

Second set was pretty fail.
I did the same thing it was a 5 set 2 girls with 3 dudes.
I open the AMOG of the group.
However he didn't introduce me to the group, instead he keep me in conversation for 5 hole min.

3rd set was interesting.
We were talking by the bar, and there is a 3 sets, one of the girl, 7HB was giving me clear IOI. So I decide to do direct approach.
F: Don't take it the wrong way, But you are the only girl who is dancing with a big bag. I found that kind of cute.
Man, she just grab my arm to pull me closer. that was so aggressive.
HB: its my cloth inside.
They exchange words between them.
F: I'm here too!
the other girl, clearly the AFOG: Go dance with her. She want you.
F: Oh, slow down, im not that easy.
Small talk a bit then I start to touching her jewels. Necklace, earring, glasses.
She ask me how old I am.
Wildgun gave me a good trick to tease there.
Always tell them to go up, then when they reach to like 35, they look silly and laugh at me cause im mean. lol.
F: I think you are a very outgoing and fun person.
HB: I am.
F: are you spontaneous? (Credit to qualifying AFC Adams)
HB: yes I am.
F: give me a spin. (boom, forcing IOI)
Dance a bit together, kino escalate.
F: (to the other girl) do you believe in magic?
HB: no.
F: I want to show you a magic tricks anyway. Give me your hand.
She give me the hands
F: you have soft hands.
HB: thx. (look shy)
ESP routine. Work then she is totally into me.
After that I go with DHV high school story.
There is my big mistakes.
F: (to her friends) can I take her from you guys just for 30 sec.
Then goes the no.

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I eject back to my wings, then they told me that I could still get the number. So I went back in, pull her to a side back to her friend ask her number then move to Tokyo.

On my way back, I bump into a girl, so why not open her.
I used the cellphone opener
F: If he is not texting you back in 5 minutes, just dump him.
HB: who are you, I must know you right? If we are talking right now in a bar, its must because I know you. I dont ran to random people and give them advise.
Dam that was bitch.
F: I dont know you, but now I dont want to get to know you.
Turn to her friend.
F: man, is she always that rude to new people she meet.
We begin to arguing for like 5 min. I finally turn her bitch shield down then her bf came in and kiss her as all AMOG do. Make sure their girl dont get steal away.
I start to talk to the AMOG, tell him how his gf is a diva and poor him have to deal with it. Teasing the girl in same time. Befriend them after 2-3 min of talking.

I was very prod of the last set. The old me would never stay and arguing back. I see it as a very good lifestyle improvement.

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After that we went to Tokyo, the place was nice, there is a fell set that can be open. We stand by the bar, Valentyn open a 2 set beside us. I spot a single girl dancing like if she is doing Thai-boxe. So I decide to use that to open.
F: I saw how you dance there, are you a yoga instructor?
she laugh.
F: Are you a spontaneous person?
HB: sort of...
F: Let me show you how to dance.
we dance a bit, spin her.
I start to cold read her. She is visibly not the kind of girl that go clubbing often.
F: You seem like a very fun and independent person but you have some leak of confidence.
She looks at me like im so right.
F: You should overcome that shyness. Its hold your *real* personality back. Trust me I used to be shy too. But if you overcome that, you are a much better person.
Man she is totally buying that shit.
We start to do some small talk.
F: scuse me, I can't hear you really well with the music, you mind if we sit somewhere more quiete.
I bounce her to the other room.
She start to chat with me and we did a background check.
I ran the ESP routine then move to connection and building report with a DHV story with my music band. How overcome your fears is important.
Out of no where she ask me my number.
F: I forgot my cellphone in my coat, do you mind give me yours.
She give me her number and tell me to call her back so she can have my number.

That pretty much the only interesting approach in Tokyo.

Overall:


The use of qualification is very powerfull, its give you free forced IOI. So is cold reading person, its give you some very unique charms.

Positive:

1-Approached 3 mixte sets.
2-Used the AMOG or AFOG to get introduce into the group.
3-Disarmed 2 AMOG
4-Number close 2 girls
5-Grant a better inner game.

Negative:

1-Randomly eject sets.
2-Leak of routine materials.
3-Still need to work on inner game confidence.

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Great work yesterday! 2 #'s is great! + you #closed a nun! Haha props! 8)

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Quick tip I observed yesterday for you! Not all the time but sometimes your back is not straight. Posture is really important..there's an exercice where you stand with your back to the wall and talk. You can do that in your room or just be comfortable being straight all the time. If you lean in at least keep your body straight. Neil Strauss says that you must imagine a string going from your feet to your head..the string must be all the time straight 100%. If you see any error I make feel free to tell me..that's the only we're going to become Mpua's!

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A small post for fun, amusing AFC song.

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... koMbxHQmuM[/youtube]

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This week, I'm going to start so easy goal because this week is going to be busy.

So there we go:

1- Watch Deep connection from Kazie Noble, and try to apply it with coworker or schoolmate.
2- Work on my body posture when I'm standing and when I'm talking.
3- Try to start conversation with random people in the subway or bus stops.

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Lol, today I did the day 2 of 30days challenge, so I have to keep eye contact with stranger will making a conversation.

A girl call me weirdo, the first day of class. LOL!

But most of the time keep eye contact with the right posture make you are very confidant person. I found that It give you a positive first impression.

I also see that sometime, AMOG to show their superiority, they shack your hand down. So they can grab it from above. Dont let them do that. Instead, I make fist bump.

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Lol, today I did the day 2 of 30days challenge, so I have to keep eye contact with stranger will making a conversation.

A girl call me weirdo, the first day of class. LOL!

But most of the time keep eye contact with the right posture make you are very confidant person. I found that It give you a positive first impression.

I also see that sometime, AMOG to show their superiority, they shack your hand down. So they can grab it from above. Dont let them do that. Instead, I make fist bump.
Watch out with your pickup material in college game man! This is not a bar or a club..do not do routines or the jealous girlfriend gambit or gambits that are similar. If a girl called you weirdo it is because you did something wrong there. College game is much slower and just showing your a confident person who has a great social circle. You can't run around the school "opening sets" with indirect gambits. Keep going and good luck!

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Lol, today I did the day 2 of 30days challenge, so I have to keep eye contact with stranger will making a conversation.

A girl call me weirdo, the first day of class. LOL!

But most of the time keep eye contact with the right posture make you are very confidant person. I found that It give you a positive first impression.

I also see that sometime, AMOG to show their superiority, they shack your hand down. So they can grab it from above. Dont let them do that. Instead, I make fist bump.
Watch out with your pickup material in college game man! This is not a bar or a club..do not do routines or the jealous girlfriend gambit or gambits that are similar. If a girl called you weirdo it is because you did something wrong there. College game is much slower and just showing your a confident person who has a great social circle. You can't run around the school "opening sets" with indirect gambits. Keep going and good luck!
Don't freak out after being labelled as a weirdo/creeper. Valentyn is probably right about the fact that you did something wrong... But thing is, women often use the creeper/weirdo call as a defence mechanism. You could do the exact same thing with two different girl. One could really like it and feel the sexual tension, and the other one could call you a creeper. It's only a matter of if they like you or not.

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Yea, I'm going slower now, I going by the proximity rules and open with situational opener. Such as, asking for question about what just the teacher said, between classes ask for where to get books then going in for a small talks exchange names.

I just can't see how talking casual can get me numbers.

Should I just talk to more women that I can or game on specific ones?

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Yea, I'm going slower now, I going by the proximity rules and open with situational opener. Such as, asking for question about what just the teacher said, between classes ask for where to get books then going in for a small talks exchange names.

I just can't see how talking casual can get me numbers.

Should I just talk to more women that I can or game on specific ones?
Talking casual builds superficial comfort with the girl. Superficial comfort mean she's used to your presence so you can start building attraction. Think about it..if a girl is uncomfortable being with you..how the hell do you want to build attraction? That's why college game is more slower and watch out reputation is also important. Hot girls will talk about you or other guys. Try to build a social reputation where you talk to a lot of people without creeping them out! Good luck and can't wait to sarge tomorrow!

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Location: Foufune Electrique (Noisy Club/Bar)

So i was bored today, I have nothing, no homework, no interesting things to do. My goal today was disqualification. I went to Foufune for their ladies night. It's have been about 2 month that I never went out alone. My AA was so high that I wait about 10minute before open a set.

I open a wallflower by the dancefloor texting her friend. a cute brunette with glasses. Clearly the type that dont like to go crazy on the dance floor.,
F: Hey, you seems to have a lot of fun! (playfully)
HB: Yea, my friends haven't arrived yet.
F: Me too
We small talk for about 2 minutes.
I run the ESP routine then I receive a call from Wildgun about another PUA (JQ). And he told me that he can wing me tonight. So I went bottom near the bar to wait him. There is a mixte set about 2 dudes and 1 girl but they are around 30s. So w.e nothing to lose. Let game them.
I went in sit just beside one of the guy.
F: ahh, finally I found a place to sit.
Guy1: You must be kidding me. There is so much empty place in the room and you choose to sit near us?
F: Well, the chair beside you guys seems very comfy and you seems to be some friendly people.
they laught.
Guy1: I was just kidding.
I start to small talk with them and find out that they are a group of musician that used to play small concert in here 7-8 years ago and they are good friends with the manager of the club.
We talk for a while, then I get a call from JQ. Then I went outside to meet him.
They were 2, both black men.
We talked for a while about our backgrounds. Turn out, that they been doing this for about 2 years but only on vacation times.

We went upstairs and start some games. I only ran 1 game set with JQ. One of the main reason why they are not that good in field is that they are english speaker and most girls there are french. So we going into a 2 sets. 1 black hairs around 6 HB and the other one brunette around 7.
JQ: Its there any one who speak english here or what?
HB1: yea most girl here are french speaker. what you cant speak french?
F( in french): My friend is actually a very interesting guy but he is not that good to express him self in french.
HB1: I mean most girl here are so easy, if you can speak a little bit of french, you can get them easily.
F: so im assuming you are an easy girl?
they both going like no no no and laughing a bit.
then the group start to move into 2 small group. JQ with HB1 and Im talking to HB2.
we small talk a bit, I tried to neg about her finger nail to be fake but she caught me. She was like, no they were real, why are they look fake? then Im end up complimenting her... fail
I didnt had the time to go with DHV story, her friend grab her away. But before she did, I did a best friend test, however, JQ told me that it was too early because I didnt ask them if they are best friend or not.

The rest of the night was pretty much watching them doing their work. Was a very boring night indeed.

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