This thread please!

Hey I've been following this thread since May! Good shit seeing you grow from AFC to where your at now.

About your problems with AFC girl though and you freaking out when she didn't want to make plans with you or w.e the case was, this has happened to me many times and this is what I realized.

When i have "other options" in terms of girls, I don't freak out, as a matter of fact, when she passes me up its almost a good thing because i know i have other girl i can hit up. But when I'm stuck in "one-itis" or dont have any other options then thats when I freak out and get down on your self.

I think you should keep doing your thing with Swiss Girl but expand your options, not necessarily find other girls you can hit it off with, but have other "friends" that are girls. People know people who know people, so when you meet one person and become their friend (not necessarily a target but could be) they will have other friends you could meet.

Good luck with everything dude

_________________
On the Road to Manhood, my new learning journal: http://bit.ly/TEVapM
(My old learning journal http://bit.ly/eYRWL4)

@kasabi & @Dros.

I tried to do it for 20/30 minutes. I thought I would feel like shit but it was not really the case. In the end it actually felt good. I tried to quiet the usual mental noise and have that "passive observer" take the lead. I succeeded to get several times to a point where my mind was empty for 3 or 4 minutes. I eventually focused on the feelings described in my last post (not easy though). Shame was the anchor most of the time. My "passive observer" would take me to several events, some of them when I was a 5 (I knew my age because of the birth of my sister). After my meditation session, I tried to remember them and wrote them on a piece of paper.

(I'm sorry if I'm not describing the experience well. The thing is, I feel like I have two "computation" systems. One allowing me to think, plan, ... and another one, quieter, closer to my body, that can observe, take advantage on the first "brain")

I had no epiphany, but I found what could be an explanation for my fear of failure and some other emotional issues. Again, it was not an epiphany or anything like that, but it felt good to know the events/patterns that determine who I am and what I do. It's definitely a way to get rid of them. I want to try that more. I'm thinking of getting back to meditation on a daily basis.

To be honest, I was willing to share these memories here but it's too personal. Let's say I understood those feelings were linked to a relatively strict education. I will probably PM Kasabi some details since he told me about the exercise.

_________________
On the Road to Manhood, my new learning journal: http://bit.ly/TEVapM
(My old learning journal http://bit.ly/eYRWL4)

Dude, I've been reading your posts for the last month or so, and i can tell you've inspired me.

looking forward for your nye report. keep it up.

Hey Daniel, I've also been keeping up with your posts after reading through the first 53 pages in about a day. I can tell you've made some great progress so keep working at it! You've definitely inspired me as well.

_________________
-Dave

Daniel!

I hope things are going well for you this year. new beginnings and a fresh course of seasons to grow with. Any Resolutions?


I just recently came across "Day bang" by roosh. I also just recently came back from holidays over x mas where I got some decent, no holds barred sex. It was unusaul to seed something during the DAY and do things more like "typical western romance". Night game always worked for me. I plow through the approaches with a belly full of booze and a silver tongue. Getting slapped, sworn at and ground to a pulp on the dance floor along the way. Women insult me, despise me and expect the worst from me. I never really recall the entire night and sometimes, I have woken up SERIOUSLY regretting my choice in women the night before. I rarely see them again.

Day game actually suits my personality much more. I was just fucking it up lately by trying to be something I am not, my night game "silver tongued devil" persona leads me to being preceived as full of myself and somewhat abrasive in the middle of a coffee shop. Or at a low key party. Or in the grocery store line up. You know what a blowhard is? That is someone who acts like a horny bar star during the lunch rush at the food court. Reading roosh's material reopened my eyes to a very obvious truth. "Game" is a word we use to describe our developed techniques. We are not drunken, loud, pushy AMOG's by nature. We don't think in terms of how to beat down a bitch shield or how to impress a woman who is on gaurd. Yes, I enjoy being witty and clever and teasing some poor girl who did her hair for three hours just to go out and bitch at lame guys. But it isn't at all a reflection of who I actually am.

"Charm" is maybe a more desirable word to describe what it is we all want to achieve. Game means you push your way through all the hoops put before you in a clever manor. charm means you just open the doors to your personality and let your interesting qualities do the work. Charming a women into wanting to spend time with you is actually WAY more satisfying than getting 10 numbers and convincing three of the most DESPERATE women to go meet a stranger from the bar for coffee at a local tea shop.

My point is, beside GO READ DAY BANG NOW, you should look hard at your intitial success with women. In partcular, your first successful cold approach in Brazil. the woman on the train. Forget the getting laid thing, forget the alpha male personality, forget all the junk about "owning" the frame. Just focus on conquering your AA, maintaining eye contact, using harmless openers and being interesting. you are focusing too much on your own opinion of yourself. On not meeting your ideals. Go out there and MEET some people you harmless, friendly guy. Go talk to some clerks at the mall, go buy your sister a scarf.

Good luck dude!

Hey AFC daniel I haven't been following your thread but I do remember when you first started it.

What kasabi wrote I believe will help you a lot. A part of the brain that affects the way you feel is related to recent events in your life. Even though its great to post about everything that you experience posting about your failures maybe having a counter-productive effect.

I know where your coming from because for me over the last month I had been constantly striking out due to sloppy game and also being unlucky constantly running into married women or taken. I've started to realise that its affecting the way I think and feel all these recent negative experiences and has also made my approach anxiety come back because I now over think whenever I go to pickup.

When your posting don't focus too much on bad experiences. Think back to times when you had success and how that made you feel. Bring these thoughts to the front of your mind and I guarantee you will feel better.

_________________
My Journal here-vp590119.html#590119

I do not agree. Being honest to oneself is essential. As long u quickly give a solution. For example. I said this (bad reaction). Next time I will do this. U must quickly ask your brain for a solution.

AFC Daniel. U maybe doing too many field reports. I say this that I would assume u should have completed your mission by now. Maybe its time to drastically push yourself harder.

Cheers

JACKAL

_________________
Meet and Wing.

direct-game-birmingham-friends-that-wil ... 30930.html

The Jackal an Introduction.
[link]

The Field Reports.
[link]

The Lay Reports.
[link]

Quick Update.

Hi guys, thanks for posting in this journal, I'll reply to you as soon as I get more time. For now I just want to post a small update on what's going on currently. Brace yourself, it's bad written.

Job interview.
I've recently had a job interview for a consultancy company. It was just the first step of an 3 parts hiring process but it went well. I was confident, friendly and all. The very next day, the guy called me to do a small debrief about the interview. He told me I was really mature for my age but he was a bit skeptical about my motivations. He gave me another interview with the executive manager though. Thing is... I'm not really interested in consultancy... it's boring to me. I'm only applying for the salary I confess, and I think he saw pretty clearly that I was not interested by the job so he told me I should work on my "motivations" more to get to the third step. Next interview is Monday.

In the mean time, I've applied to other job offers and will keep on doing so.

"Gaming".
NYE was disappointing, I somehow ended up in a familiar party with no potential girl at all... but it's okay. I had loads of fun, met new people and was happy to see my friend from Singapore again. I also went to Paris a lot and approached a couple of times. Nothing great though but still good to put myself on the front.

The Brazilian I've met a bar is now inviting me to parties. I went out with her the other day and had a drink with her too Italian friends. A party at her place is coming in two weeks. I'll see if I find any cute girl to work on. One of the Italian was cute. I've never had sex with an Italian.

Swiss Girl wrote me to wish me happy new year. As far as I remember, she gotta be coming back soon to Paris. She told me she'll write me when she's back. I'll call her and set up a date and do my best to escalate.

I've also written to the girls I've "been" with in Brazil. I wrote to UK girl who replied "I had a really nice time in brazil with you, maybe our paths will cross again one day". I like that girl. I've also been in contact with German Girl. To be honest I spoke to her to "prove" myself I could be direct. I basically end up telling that I wanted to have sex with her. She's now asking me to come to Germany.

I'll soon write a post to start a new chapter and reply to your remarks.

Daniel..

_________________
On the Road to Manhood, my new learning journal: http://bit.ly/TEVapM
(My old learning journal http://bit.ly/eYRWL4)

Dude keep it up. You are highly motivated which is always good.

_________________
Meet and Wing.

direct-game-birmingham-friends-that-wil ... 30930.html

The Jackal an Introduction.
[link]

The Field Reports.
[link]

The Lay Reports.
[link]

Hello Daniel.I am one of the hundreds reading your journal.I found out about PUA this summer , and wanted to start to be better myself with girls actually.And you know what ? It worked.I see that girls usually laugh to my behaviour,some of my jokes and I'm happy.It actually learnt me to be myself.But you know what?I still don't have a girlfriend.And I have questioned myself why?Why can't i get a pretty girlfriend??Where was the problem?

Well I found out the answer.It was that I was looking for a "pretty" girl that was the problem.You may not take this seriously but I should ask everyone who is aiming for a beautiful girl,and wants her for life...Stop!!

If you want just to get laid,you should go to hang at the club , and bring some of your friends that look cool (you have to look cool too ),and maybe you can get laid with a pretty girl.But you'll see that in the end you'll have only lost more than won,especially if you are not comfortable with the club setting.

Back to pretty girl for life.The problem with having a pretty girl as your girlfriend,is just a matter of luck , just like gambling. While you may be not believing of what I say,the fact is that pretty girls usually have a boyfriend which in many cases is long term,and you can't budge,or that she doesn't and she is a total bitch.I mean , if you think clearly about it , aiming for a pretty girl will get nowhere , even picking up with the aim of a pretty girl will get you nowhere really.

My fatal mistake was that I had so many chances to get a girlfriend,and there were a lot of girls that liked me before,but I didn't return the favor , because they were not pretty.I tried to wait for a more pretty girl to like me instead,but it got me here where I don't have a girlfriend.It's not really sad,but consindering I wanted one since so long I have been doing some very wrong decisions,and really bad mistakes.And waiting for a pretty girl to like was very wrong of me.

Well I don't say that picking up girls will not get you a pretty girlfriend,but most of the time,she won't be the girl you are looking.The girl you are looking for is not in the looks but in the brain.It's the person who you would like to get along to,that matters.My oppinion,is that if a girl likes to talk and be with you,and she really has no boyfriend,no matter how pretty / ugly she is,ask her out.And you know what?She may be the girl you are looking for.

So in conclusion : Don't aim for a good looking girl.Aim for a girl that has the personality.Also , aiming for a pretty girl with personality too would be even harder,close to impossible,as there aren't so many girls to fit our personalities,and most of the time she has a boyfriend,so sad luck.

In reality all we have to learn from pua is : Be yourself,be social,and find the girl that fits our personality not that fits our standards.

Every once in a while there will come a pretty girl that fits your personality, that isn't shallow, that isn't a bitch. But yes, those are rare. The important thing is that she turns you on, no matter how she looks.

_________________
rAFC and yes, I'm a chick.

I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

Another funny thing I saw,was one of those "frat" boys , who are kinda egotistical,and always seemed to have huuuge succes with girls,was that he was with a not so good looking girl.He wasn't turned by her looks but by her personality.

Point is,it that if you want to be really like a PUA,aim for personality.

P.S Girls that are super ugly may as well never turn you on,but they don't really have the personality either.

@Insert.

Hi Insert, always good to have you here. I don't have any resolution for now, but truth is I've been taking actions to improve myself all along the year so... doesn't really matter.

I'll start to read Dag Bang quickly.

I like your perspective. I think David Wygant's material (which I would consider natural) suits me very well. He basically states that all we have to do is walk to a woman and connect with her, give her that Hugh Grant moment. This is close to the notion of "charm" you're bringing to the table and requires social skills.



Being in the "game" allowed me to understand some key concepts. I know notice the "little games" some girls play, and to be honest, I don't like these "little games". The Brazilian chick I've met in Paris lately likes to play around: "I have a boyfriend... no I'm joking", she likes to speak about other guys with her friend in front of me and all... I used to be saddened by that when I was AFC, now that I see clear, I understand she probably likes me... but those games are pathetic and seeing this basically makes her even more unattractive to me. That's not me. I don't play those games.

I guess I wouldn't have to deal with this in day game, but to be honest I'm not that good at it. I can usually open without any problem, but I'm weak afterwards... I see that it's awkward and feel bad about it. My mind goes "damn I'm bothering her". Thing is I'm too nice. I shouldn't feel bad about putting some pressure on them. Maybe focusing on why I'm approaching (to get laid) can help me with that. I'm not saying I should come to a girl and make her feel my boner, but maybe being more perverted in my mind would guarantee more success.

I like your idea of "charm". It's basically making your personality shine. When I think about it, the best relations I had with girls (can be friends) were the one where I let my personality shine through. I wasn't playing those "games" I don't like.

That's why I also like Sasha . I know a lot of people don't like his style, but to be honest, he has the balls to walk to a girl and show her who he is (that is to say, a damn crazy clown). That's something I can't do for now. But I had an amazing time with every woman I've done that with, but doing it with someone I barely know is hard to me.



Guess you're right, I'll keep on doing what I like to do: meeting people in a friendly way. I know how to do that. And that might be the way I want to approach. Yet, that's not gonna fix my issue about "escalating". I need to get better at flirting, and again, maybe the solution would be to focus on why I want to approach girls: to fuck them. I tend to forget that and end up approaching to validate myself. That's not the point. The point is to fuck her, not to validate myself.

Thanks for posting.

_________________
On the Road to Manhood, my new learning journal: http://bit.ly/TEVapM
(My old learning journal http://bit.ly/eYRWL4)