I've been gaming on facebook for over a year and had couple success mostly 7s and 8s. 9s and 10s are pretty hard to close, special after the first convo, they're like a completely different cold person! it sucks! how do you manage that? and why does it always happens? is that buyer's remorse?

i've included the translated version of the chat log if that helps, i hope you'll find dome time to read it. i'm confused!

I randomly added her because she was a 10, and after couple weeks i commented on her picture hugging a tree with "forever alone? :p"
this is a very long detailed log, i hope you could read it all, i'm just looking for pointers and point out my mistakes, thanks in advance

Me: Oh, here she is the "forever alone" girl! :p
HB: xD, who are you? :p
(qualifier)
Me: just a citizen :p
(you don't qualify)
HB: enchanter xD, one of the 10million or the 11? xD
(double bind, another qualifier)
Me: noo noo, i'm from the vip ones :p
(you stick with frame, and give another fake answer)
HB: lol. hey, how do you know me? u_u
(another qualifier)
Me: I don't, perhaps you know me
(you qualify, frame is now in her control)
HB: No :p, no problem well get to know each other :p
(she sets frame)
Me: Don't tell me your one of those asking boring questions like "how old are you?" "where are you from?" :p
(you qualify her to stop qualifying you)
HB: lol, ok never mind :p
(she doesn't take the bait she still has the frame)
(5min)
HB: *funny youtube link* watch it xD
(shit test)
Me: I am supposed to laugh? it's not that funny :p
(you failed)
HB: lool
Me: what kind of music you listen forever alone girl?
(qualifier)
HB: Many, probably everything :p
(she won't qualify)
Me: *ugly remix youtube link* listen
(compliance test)
HB: i like you music taste :p
(she complies, then sets a preference to your taste)
Me: listen to it entirely :p
(compliance test)
HB: well, i at leat it has a cool intro :p
(she negs you and doesn't comply)
Me: I knew you gonna say that :p
(you are under the control of her frame)
HB: You know everything :p
(qualifier)
Me: yup, after midnight i work as a mind and future reader Razz
(you don't qualify)
ME: *original youtube link*
HB: I like this style
(sets preference)
Me: i know, told you i'm a mind reader :p
(you qualify yourself *dlv* to return to cut thread)
HB: whaa you're cool :p. Seriously, how old are you?
(lol qualifier)
Me: 20, you?
(you qualify *dlv* this girl is running a dominance train on you)
HB: aww, you're young Smile. i'm 16.
(shit test)
Me: aww you're young :p
(passed)
HB: *youtube link*
Me: i know that song, but thisd one is better *link* :p
HB: you knwo many things :p
(qualifier)
Me: Yep lool
(you qualified)
(15min)
HB: why you stopped talking? u_u
(qualifier)
Me: I had a client, he wanted me to read his palm :p
(you qualified *dlv*)
HB: ? and me?
(shit test)
Me: ah, you....
HB: ...?
Me: i see... that you're gonna be a doctor..
(you failed)
HB: hahahha xD, imagine that..
Me: no actually a pet doctor.. specially cats
HB: are making you those?
(qualifier)
Me: Noo, everything i say is 100% correct giirl!
(you qualify for her)
HB: xD okay, only cats?
(this girl has this frame locked up, you are her little puppy)
Me: mice sometimes :p
HB: xD, okay and my husband? or wont i get married? xD
(if you notice she is leading this whole convo, she is setting the frame and adding/cutting all the threads)
Me: i... see that.. .you're gonna marry a rich handsome guy
HB: lol
Me: have 4 kids, but divorce you. life is harsh :p
HB: T_T ,4 kids? that's too many
(qualifier)
Me: Well i'll try to change the futur and make it 2 kids, but it's gonna cost you extra cash :p
(you qualify for her)
HB: i don't want kids xD
(further qualifier)
Me: not possible young lady, it has to be al least 2 kids :p
(you didn't qualify)
HB: lol, okay
Me: and you don't need to know the rest.
HB: No xD, tell me, i need to know :p
(shit test)
Me: Nope, you discover by your self, i quit this job :p
(you pass)
HB: you're kidding right?
(qualifier)
Me: About what?
(finally you take the frame, and don't qualify yourself)
HB: what you just said :p
Me: No, i'm 100% not kidding at allll giiirl :p
(you hold frame)
HB: xD. give me another song, i'm listening to the one you gave me since.
(shit test)
Me: come on don't be greedy :p
(you hold frame)
HB: never mind u_u
(shit test)
Me: next time maybe :p
(passed, and you have frame)
HB: okay
Me: you, give me a song
(compliance test)
HB: *Link* a frnd gave it to me, i still haven't heard it xD
(she complies, and qualifies herself)
Me: whaa, just what i was looking for, give him a kiss from me
(you validate her for this song *good move*, then compliance test that is also a disqualifier)
HB: i can't, if i give him, he'll ask from who and i'll have to tell him all the story
(no compliance)
Me: just tell him a kiss from a citizen :p
(compliance test)
HB: hahahha, xD
(no compliance)
HB: *song links*
Me: thank you (kiss)
(approval seeking)
(small talk about music)
Me: thanks for the links, you saved me from the bored state :p
(approval seeking)
HB: see? i'm generous, unlike you :p
(shit test)
Me: every one has his own character :p
(you failed)
(40min)
HB: what are you doing?
(qualifier)
Me: lot's of stuff :p, including listening to music :p
(you qualify for her)
HB: "Men to lead, women to follow" :p
(so ironic, more like girl to lead, you to follow)
Me: what the hell are you doing in my profile you bastard? :p
HB: watching u_u, and it's called timeline :p
(couple likes on old vid)
HB: We have the same music taste :p
(she offers commonality)
Me: Maybe :p
(??)
HB: how mush did you score when you got your degree?
(qualifier)
Me: why? wanna employ me? :p
(you don't qualify)
HB: yup yup :p
Me: 15/20
(you qualify but still made her invest first)
(grades small talk)
Me: long story
HB: tell me, i got enough time
(shit test)
Me: is that necessary? :p
(approval seeking)
HB: nope :p
(she is indifferent)
Me: okay, that's better :p
HB: i'm just bored :p
(sets the frame that you are her entertainment)
Me: cook an egg :p
(compliance test)
HB: i'm sorry, i guess i disturbed you
(shit test)
Me: just a little :p
(passed *didn't really like the answer though*)
HB: lool :p
Me: *telling a brief about the long story*
(qualified yourself to her frame, this has turned into you seeking her approval, and her controling the frame)
HB: woow, so now let's get back to the girl you loved and loved you back :p, keep talking :3
(shit test)
Me: why do you always concentrate on her? xD, nah maybe some other time.
(qualifier)
HB: Sad , you're mean. look i sent you links :p
(she doesn't qualify, shit test)
Me: and i told you a brief, we dont own each other :p
(passed)
HB: lol, even though i don't know you, but i felt comfortable with you Smile
Me: SAme here, i just met you and you made me tell you a brief about my life story, you bastard :p
(not sure why you keep calling her a bastard?)
HB: hahaha xD, it's just you see cool and i rarely talk to strangers like that
(qualifier and shit test at same time)
Me: you seem cool too, you just have to tune down your greediness :p
(you validate her *failed shit test*, compliance test)
HB: It's not greediness, it's called curiosity
(re-frame)
Me: what ever :p
(you accept frame)
HB: first time xD
HB: don't you have photos? (ps: my photos are not visible by every one, this is my profile [link])
(qualifier)
Me: yep
HB: can i see them :p
Me: yep, greedy :p
(4min)
HB: ca i see your photos? :p
(qualifier)
Me: Ah, keep quiet you persistent, i'm looking for album privacy :p
(you don't qualify for her)
HB: xD ,not too much :p Hier
HB: never mind, it's the same for me, you're cool anyway :p
(negged you)
Me: do you always talk this much? you can see the albums now.
(negged her back)
HB: Surprised, smoking and mounting a military tank!
Me: yep i'm a terrorist :p
(you qualify yourself)
HB: so how's the study where you're from?
Me: i get this question 20 times per day :p
HB: okay, never mind. *brother name* is your brother?
Me: Surprised , stop stalking me xD
HB: lol, okay.
(this seems like it is not fun for her anymore)
Me: yep that's my bro. got any brothers?
HB 2, boys :p
Me: i supposed there older then you are.
HB: nope, i'm the oldest
Me: you're ooooold, do they call you granny sometimes :p
HB: listen... You need to learn how to be nice :p
(qualifier)
Me: But i am nice :p
(you qualify yourself)
HB: oh veryyyyy nice!
(good doggie, goood booooyy!!)
Me: see?
(10min)
ME: and you, are you nice?
(qualifier)
HB: yep, i got to go sleep. good night
(doesn't qualify and game over)
Me: good night


Next day

Me: any good music tonight? Smile
HB: i'm not in the mood, look in my profile xD
(shit test and she doesn't want to talk)
Me: okay.
(25min)
Me: you'r photos are all taken from the same angle xD
(NEEDINESS and failed the shit test)
HB: lool, yup, i don't like the other side of my face, it just.. i don't know
Me: talking about photos, you're beatiful, but...
HB: but my neck is ugly? xD
Me: xD, no xD, beauty is common these days, two things are rare, a good sense of humour and good personality.
(big qualifier at terrible time)
HB: my personality isn't always good, never mind xD
(she doesn't qualify but is probably feeling semi guilty for not returning these feelings)
Me: yea every own has his own personality, like i'm very nice :p
(you qualify yourself)
HB: it's just i'm not cool with every one and when i'm in a bad mood i'm like a snake :p
(hinting that she is in a bad mood)
Me: well sometimes you have too, i knew i girl that was very nice etc, but guys just take advantage of her, use her and throw her away
(qualifier)
HB: i used to be nice like her, well i'm still sometimes
(lol she likes to be used)
Me: oh, you really are nice!
(approval seeking and neediness time, with this one)
(convo dead)

Intresting!! you got me cracking up on e

Yea you're right, thanks for pointing it out, i wouldn't notice it by my own.

By the way, what's the best reply to her attention seeking like "what are you doing?" "who are you talking to?" "where have you being?" "why you stopped chatting with me?".

Thanks again.

Edit: and do you know any books/pdf or articles about shit test, compliance tests etc?

you were trying to own the frame several times throughout the first convo and you had some good nuggets where it seemed as though she was taking the bait but then you allowed her to seize control again.

HB: lol. hey, how do you know me? u_u
Me: I don't, perhaps you know me (Who said i do?)

HB: *funny youtube link* watch it xD
Me: I am supposed to laugh? it's not that funny :p (?)

ME: *original youtube link*
HB: I like this style
Me: i know, told you i'm a mind reader :p (I like it too)
HB: whaa you're cool :p. Seriously, how old are you?
Me: 20, you? (Old enough)

HB: you knwo many things :p
Me: Yep lool *ignore* *change subject*


HB: why you stopped talking? u_u
Me: I had a client, he wanted me to read his palm :p (aww, you missed me :p)
HB: ? and me?
(shit test)
Me: i see... that you're gonna be a doctor.. (No palm reading for you, i barely know you)

HB: are making up you those?
Me: Noo, everything i say is 100% correct giirl!(geez, i'm trying to concentrate here, keep quiet)

HB: see? i'm generous, unlike you :p
Me: every one has his own character :p (I know, i'm the least generous person on planet earth)


HB: what are you doing?
Me: lot's of stuff :p, including listening to music :p (preparing a plan to rob a bank, i need a driver, can you drive?)

Me: long story
HB: tell me, i got enough time
Me: is that necessary? :p (i don't)

HB: i'm sorry, i guess i disturbed you
Me: just a little :p (disturbed isn't the right word)


HB: hahaha xD, it's just you seem cool and i rarely talk to strangers like that
Me: you seem cool too, you just have to tune down your greediness :p (thanks *change subject*)


HB: It's not greediness, it's called curiosity
Me: what ever :p (yeaaa rrrrrrrrrrrrright)


HB: I'm surprised, you're smoking and mounting a military tank!
Me: yep i'm a terrorist :p (I'm heading to Iraq, come with us)

HB: listen... You need to learn how to be nice :p
Me: But i am nice :p (i'll keep that in mind....maybe)

Don't get caught-up in the logistics of each and every thing you say to a girl. Just go in there with the right mindset (that you are the PRIZE) and you'll guide the conversation along that course as though instinctively. It's ironic how when you so don't want to mess things up, messing up becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy (not wanting to mess things up in itself will invariably lead you into HER frame - that she's the prize). The key is to remain chill - this will set the frame in and of itself; she'll be more comfortable because you are, and also your mind will be freer to focus on gaming her and you'll also be more present instead of thinking "OMG what will I say next if she says (a) or (b) or even (c)?!?!". Most importantly of all, you'll enjoy your interactions with people much more and things will become more spontaneous and interesting.

Interesting, but i'm still sorting out innergame issues etc, i don't think i can "spontaneously" have the proper mindset, just by not thinking about anything, after all, reframing false beliefs and fixing innergame issues is mostly based on self-awareness, that leads me sometimes to self-consciousness...

it's like i'm caught up in an endless loop , and nothing seems to help me breaking from it better then exposing myself to situation where i'm feeling "vulnerable", the fear/feelings are overwhelming but it's reducing by time...

here are some easy ideas for you,

-know what you want, and go for what you want (not what you think she wants, don't worry about that)
-she is already attracted to you, you don't have to win her over
-you don't have to impress her or do anything amazing, just be yourself
-you are screening her to see if she is cool and interesting as well as good looking, if she is not don't give her more credit then she deserves, ignore her looks if possible
-don't expect anything from her, and manage what she expects from you
-express what you want, and what you want to know about her, and express how you feel about what she tells you, be absolutely honest as much as possible without being rude for no reason
-make the interaction enjoyable for yourself, if it isn't just stop interacting
-you don't have to do anything for her, and if she wants you to, you should trade something for it, or not do it
-don't get mad at her for being silly