I am 25, recently graduated engineer. For the past few years I've focused on getting my degree and working my ass of as my parents are house poor. Degrees don't come cheap. I've neglected the social part of my life.

I've always thought some guys are good with girls some aren't. Me being in the latter category. Recently a friend gave me the book The Game. Life changing indeed. I can switch to the other side!

Here we go. My first time when I was actually thinking how to "game". My buddy and I went to this backwater bar for New Years.

My first approach: was a group of girls. I went to them. My first mistake was not to smile, second when I said "Hey, I need a quick opinion on something. But I need to return to my friends so don't get any ideas" I was fixed on looking one girl. I guess I should be looking at all of them. Don't know how to do that effectively. Talking to a group is difficult. Then I continued "My buddy over there..." then she interrupted me mid sentence "Leave us!". I was quite shocked on the rudeness. FFS can't a man finish his sentence! I guess I had the luck on speaking to the most frustrated girl in the group. No worries. I just left.

My second approach: I saw a cute girl sitting at a table there with others around but I saw a free seat next to her. So I just sat next and said "Hey. I like you. Tell me something about yourself.". She was like dismissive "My BF is right over there". I said "That's nice. I like you. Tell me something about yourself". Then see just repeated "My BF is right over there" but I think she was a bit puzzled and taken aback a bit by my repeating. Then her BF just turned he was standing like very close to her. He said "You are intruding on our private space." then he was shoving me glasses I don't know what he wanted to tell me. Then I said "You want me to drink but the glasses are empty?" then I turned to the girl and him "Your accent is not familiar where are you from?" and I stood up and touched the BF on the upper arm like I have the upper arm. I could sense his first confidence wavered. He said "You should leave" or something like that but the voice was not intimidating. How rude of him not using the please word. I was then thinking should I insist that he uses the word please. But I was like dude it is not worth the hassle. I don't want to spend money on the security guard. Just laughed out loud and left.

Tried Drug Dealer Buddy opener got shot down mid sentence
Approach HB9 with the BF being close by got shoot down

I was like FFS what a rude bunch of people. Is it to much to expect people for people to say "Hi. We want to be left alone. Please leave"? Anyway I was like ok lets try to find some polite people.

Then I started talking to this girl on the next table. But she was not really pretty and not really interesting. So I was like ok lets try next one....

At that point my buddy over there was getting drunk beyond all limits and I had to take him home.

So this was the first time I went out to "game" and it was pretty lame night. But then again it was infinitely better then staying at home alone.

I don't really have any approach anxiety. I try to think when talking to a girl that she is a friend of mine and we know each other for a long time so there is really no reason for any anxiety. Also I speak on technical conferences from time to time. My largest audience was like 300 people. I got just a little nervous before getting on stage but when I am on I am in the zone. Also with approaching I get just a little nervous but after saying the first word all is great.

Anyway if somebody reads all of this. I'd like to know what are good resources for me? Which method should I look?

I don't really have problems approaching girls. Like if I see a girl on the train and if she has a book I immediately approach and say "Hey. What book are you reading?". Usually talk to her like 20-30 minutes then I always end up in the friend zone. I just can't get to build some "chemistry".

Need serious help on exactly WHAT to say and HOW to say.

Even if nobody replies, thank you guys! Just knowing that it is possible to do "social engineering" is liberating feeling.

Haha way to go with the glasses and the BF. Im the same with pleases and shit... I can just imagine myself going through the same scenario. Its fun to be at the start of the journey though, good luck mate.

Thanks mate. I'll need it.

I am angry that girls are so "stupid" and we need to go trough all this hassle.

It is going to be an interesting year for sure.

One of the first things that people fix about themselves before entering the game is their look. Now i don't know how you look so don't hate me for posting this. You don't necessarily have to peacock in order to get a girl's attention but it sure as hell helps. Try wearing something like a purple button down, make sure that the shirt does not sag at all it must be tight as hell. Roll up the sleeves a bit if the shirt is a bit saggy or tight around your wrists, it also makes you look much more casual. Wear that with a light orange skinny tie. You can probably pick that stuff up at Express. Wear that with black pants or dark jeans and black shoes. When you go out never wear sneakers.

Another thing you should do is try changing up your hair style, I changed mine after reading the game and i've been getting more attention and respect because of it. It's really good that you have no approach anxiety but if you look like a bum in a baggy shirt no girl will give you the time of day.

Another thing I should mention is that scripted routines generally work better on HBs that have half a mind and these girls can be pretty hard to come by depending on where you are.

Anyways good luck, NEVER give up, and happy hunting!

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You're spot on. I have a relatively short hair cut, it will definitely look better with some hair gel. I've used it before but I hate the hair gel so messy. I guess I don't have a choice, will use it next time. Thanks for the tip.

You're saying I should go out with shirt&tie but the rest can be jeans and stuff? I very rarely see a guy with a shirt and tie in a bar/club is this why you recommend going with shirt&tie?

What do you recommend I wear over the shirt should it be a bit colder?

At the bar were 2 guys with a rice hat and I definitely noticed them. I was thinking to myself who are these guys. And one time a buddy of mine wore this shirt with a huge overblown zipper I just wanted to touch it.

Thanks for the advice.