Can ya help a fella out here i have this weird thing going on with me after i have known a female for a lil i cant hold there conversational interest in particular there is this chick i talk to known her for a year and some change we had plenty sex had a relationship and it broke off then we kinda got back together it jus wasnt official I can bang her and do whatever in a way.now when we talk i know she still wants to talk to me sometimes if i text her and say hey im takin a shower real quick and im bout to workout shell prompt me to hurry and skip my workout(sometimes i do i mostly dont) and she is pretty hot theres guys left and right seeking her but im her main squeeze .anyways i could talk to her and she jus goes mhm and yeah and ok ya know i try to be open ended and but it dosent really get anywhere far so im wondering if theres a way i can pull out some good interesting conversations with her on the phone/text just overall

You are 38 and feel the need to tell us your lay count.
No one cares and neither should you.
What you fail to realize is people will take advice regardless of lay count if they think it is good advice.
In no way am I trying to insult you but, you still have much growing up to do.

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Bravo!! Totally agree.

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I haven't taken stock of too many people's "count", however the one person that always comes to my mind when people either brag, or disbelieve how many people someone has slept with, is Johnny Soporno.

When I interviewed him for MPUAForum.com back in November of 2008 (it was a great interview and it's still on the forum if you look for it!) he told me that he had slept with over 2,800 women. That was over 3 years ago and I can only assume that he has exceeded 3,000 at least by this point! He doesn't "run game", he's just a very open, engaging and fun guy to be around and he told me some of the "secrets" to his success.

He has hours of free videos of his live seminars posted on his websites that you can watch and learn a LOT from. I HIGHLY recommend Johnny as one of the men who has most influenced my own style and way of interacting with women...which according to them and the people around at the times, is quite successful and I don't think it would have ever gotten to the easy flow that it is at now without the seeds he planted in my mind.

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This guy wreaks of DLV.

At first 2800 seemed pretty high. Then I remembered that Johnny is an older guy and has been doing this over 20 years. According to my math he must average around 100 a year which is doable.

Though its doable, I have to wonder, what drives a guy to want to fuck 2800 women? I'm not judging and I happen to respect Johnny quite a bit, but my thoughts remain.

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800, it sure sounds like a lot of woman, but who are we to judge if its true or not. If its not, then its his problem not ours.
Also 800 woman in 38 years leaves low space for relationships but once again its his problem. The only thing that matters is happiness, if you are happy with 1 or 800 woman than you are happy.

I guess its worth to listen him out. I liked this zero rejection teory, it sounds like a confidence stabilizer indeed.

Any day game advices (subway, park, mall, coffeshop...)? I suck at them.

Cheers!

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Xfman and Serj

You have a lot to learn about marketing. Its for general consumption. It is not aimed at a finite audience. The fact that u have responded is proof that the marketing of sexaddict is effective.

Most guys who bluff when challenged fall to pieces. Sex addict has maintinated his stance.

Guys who disagree with him, in the long term will make him appear more valid. Persuasion 101.

Logic does not shape the course of humanity, emotion does. Sex addicts handle is emotive and it packs a punch. It is this boldness that attracts women.

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I am not really sure why you are commenting on this. I have never boasted or bragged about my numbers, in fact the only time i have ever discussed them on here is after being repeatedly challenged and bombarded with insults.

The title of this thread was merely a way to show my experience and at the same time to show some validity. My aim is to help. I have been able to advise and assist quite a few people in my short time on this site.

As for offering advice, if I had just signed up with a random name and offered advice on others posts, i would have just fallen into the grain of others offering advice. By having people asking me for advice, it allows me to have a captive audience and ensures my time and effort is being received fully.

What I am confused about is the insult, I have seen and talked to you in the PUA chat room and you seemed like a very decent person. I am not sure how things work where you are from but where I am from, if someone tells a grown man he needs to grow up, it is most certainly an insult.

I have been called a liar, retard, moron, idiot. full of shit etc etc. I have managed to maintain a level head with the exception of one time. I must admit, it is starting to get annoying.

That being said, from this point on I will not be responding to any negative comments or post. If you disagree with anything i write or advise and would like a response from me. BE CIVIL and I will gladly respond.

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I expect more from a moderator and a representative of this site. I am here to help.

Aren't you?

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Hey there, based on your comments it would seem she has a general interest in you, but maybe not in what you have to say. In my experiences, women tend to talk waaaay too much for my liking. lol. Women tend to be very scatter brained and have a million thoughts going on in their head. If you wish to engage her, I suggest you talk about her, ask her questions about herself, her interests. Get personal. I have not met a women yet that doesn't want to share her feelings.

Good luck my friend.

Keep me posted.

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Hey man I really appreciate your support.

You continue to show your high level of class and intellect. I consider myself a great judge of character and you my friend are a man of substance.

Thanks for keeping it real.

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A day time approach can be a beautiful thing. It is unexpected and usually results in isolation, just you and her. (their is no other competitive distractions, other men lurking)

I find day time approaches to have a much higher success rate then in a bar/club setting. In a club setting there is a good chance the one you approach has already heard so much BS or attempted pick ups that no matter how sweet/funny/charming you are, she may already have a negative mindset. Thus rendering her unapproachable.

Day game on the other hand is brimming with opportunity.

I think in your case, you may need to first work on your shyness to approach, with the correct state of mind, it should not matter where or when you are making an approach.

You mentioned that you are familiar with my "zero rejection theory" this can be applied anywhere any time. In fact! it is much easier to pull off in a day time setting. ( there is much less distractions for her)

If you are experiencing any type of approach anxiety. I have a creative suggestion.

If you are willing to put the time and effort in. I suggest you create a survey, complete with clip board and all. 10 questions or so. Make them questions you would actually like to know the answer to( about women in general) Throw some humor in there as well.

Having an objective and a reason to approach will surely eliminate your approach anxiety. ( if questioned why? you can always make something up, its a research project for school, its something you have to do because you lost a bet. You are doing it to better educate yourself....etc etc.

Bottom line is, even if you are getting questioned as to "why" you are still talking to her, and got past the approach anxiety. It will give you some face time with beautiful women, without any fear of rejection. After all you are just doing a survey right? Do this often, be yourself, be someone else, all that matters is you are becoming more comfortable engaging a beautiful woman.

If you dedicate a full day, doing a survey and only approaching women that you would never normally approach, you will have done in one day! what some men have spent years trying to do. Carry on an engaging conversation with a shit load of beautiful women.

I am confident that even after one day of full effort, you will have gained buckets of confidence when it comes to approaching women.


If you decide to go with the survey, I would love to hear how it worked out.

I will even go as far as to help you create the questionnaire, if you promise to do it.

Fortune favors the bold, be bold!

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I never said you were bragging, you were fake, nor what you say is true or not and have no doubt that you are trying to help out the beginners here. Stop assuming and or putting words in my mouth.
Your reasoning for telling us your lay count whether it be for validity or marketing is pointless and what you are failing to realize is that it lay count does not matter.
Insulting you was never my intentions and was merely my opinions. Try looking at things from a different perspective.
You should be open to criticism, you can learn many things from the younger community, vice versa.

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Serj

Perception in life is everything. One mans perception is his reality. You need to change your perception.

How old are you? Where do you live? IF you are relatively young and have no obligations. I suggest you go on an adventure. At the risk of sounding cliche, find yourself.


One of my favorite quotes:

Inside yourself or outside, you never have to change what you see, only the way you see it.-- Thaddius Golus.

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