Ok so I've been hanging out with this girl for about a month about every weekend. It has just been me and her. I have brought up us going out but she says she likes where we are now. Even after that she will still talk to me and we would still hangout but I'm wondering if it will ever progress or if there is anything I can do to help it progress. TY!

im pretty sure we've all been there at least once..
i heard a theory on the whole LJBF status - its known as the 'friendship hole'. the theory states once ur in u aint coming out any time soon brother. may sound bleak but dont give up altogether.. next time u see her make sure to kino escalate and if possible tell her some story about u meetin another chick and hittin it off really well with her to see how she responds to the thought of losing u as a future option.
combine this with a few other DHVs (perhaps some CR routines such as the cube may help establish an emotional connection with her)

btw i was in soo many fukn friendship holes before i found about the whole seduction community and read 'The Game' and its helped out quite a lot but i kinda started fresh and gave up on the chicks i had holes with.. they're all still good friends of mine however. =]

good luck man.

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I disagree on the LJBF issue.

To clarify, if you are stuck in the LJBF zone it is because you created attraction, built comfort and trust but never made any move from there and you are therefore stuck in the friend zone. Yes this is a bad place to be and most guys think I will just befriend the girl first, and from there move on up to boyfriend material. Obviously we know that this is not the case.

I do, however, think that if you are in the friend zone there is a high possibility that you can create a LTR after awhile. Here is the key in my experience. If you are in the friend zone, you can not just move directly into the seduction phase (which is unfortunately what a lot of guys do). Wait until a good moment, either at a party, when your by yourselves or what not, and start BACK at A2. I might get a lot of people disagreeing with this but ultimately I think it will work if you give it a shot. Re-create attraction (or create it if you hadn't before) then escalate kino paying very much attention to her body language and her reactions. Just keep moving up and I think it is possible you can get with her.

In my situation right now i have a girl who I would really want a LTR with and we are just friends. I created attraction, built some comfort and we made out at a party. After that it was kind of awkward but now we are even closer, I know mroe about her than I think anyone does, and we have only known each other for three months. While we are not in a relationship now, I am still having fun with other girls and neither of us are interested in any relationship with anyone right now, but she has alluded to the fact that she might want one in the near future.

Bottom Line: If you are in the Friend's Zone, the best-case scenario is that you end up in a LTR with her, if you do it right.



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I've been there too brother.
I'm currently gaming 3 friends. Just to see how I can make it escalate inte more than LJBF.

My experience has tought me that LJBF is mentally hard for us(the guys) to leave. It takes "balls" and courage. But all in all, it's not that hard. You need to let the SPAM come, and when it does, escalate kino until a kiss is approaching. If she gives you resistance, treat it like a LMR. Then you'll hopefully score. If she doesn't give you resistance, be happy !

Now, this isn't something that works for all girls and all situations, but if you really want to leave the LJBF you must go for it and really put your Game in use.

I've thought about just going all out like by getting a rose and basically going all out and telling her how i feel. But I'm afraid this may scare her away. What do you guys think? I am planning on getting her a rose for christmas.

It all depends... If she already has the thoughts about wanting you for a BF. Then it'll work. If she doesn't have those ideas you might wake them up in her mind for doing this. But that's not a safe move. If I were you I would try to work her up atleast a little. You already know eachother, so you have knowledge about her you can use, eg. what kind of styles she likes when listening to music, watching movies and so on...

Try to set a mood. Invite her to your place and start the evening with something normal, like a buddy filmnight. But as the night proceeds, use the kinos like moving closer to her and then when the film reaches some point where some form of romance is displayed use it to your advantage. But don't overdo it! This is important, you can't start throwing yourself over her. It takes a little time to leave the LJBF. But once you've started you'll get there.

The rose is a great idea, but don't expect her to throw herself in your arms for it. She might even give you a bad responce, don't get hung up on that if it happens! It might be because she is surprised. Once she start thinking about it and telling her friends about it she'll have small thoughts about the sweetness in your action.

Remember that it is the small things together with the big picture that gives you the great future

Hope all goes well! And post us about your progress

/R.O