I lost somehow their attention and its begin to be akward to rekino the same girl. Then I eject about 5 min after drag away by valentyn.

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I been gaming with my new wing valentyn, doing day game and night game a couple of time. Make me realize that I been doing about 4 month of nature game and my game is laking of structure. for instant I never neg and I stay in the friend zone too much.

I fell like I have to restruct my game. I realize im one of those non-nature and I need a method.

So I been watching and reading alot about the structure. Mystery method, the 30 days challenge.
So far, I going with DJ Fuji's lecture.
I need work on the fundamentals.

So here is my new goals for the next weeks that comes

1-Body languages
2-Going pass hook point and build report to 2 girls per day minimum
3-work on my fashion and have a new avatar.

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So tonight we are going to Fouf electrique, Ladies night.

My goals for tonight:
1-open 5 differents sets and go beyond the hook point build report and give in some neg then eject.
2-Then going in for 1 set stay the longuest i can without asking their number.

Also working on my body language:
1-talking over the shoulder.
2-DO NOT show too much interest.
3-DO NOT LEAN IN.

Also have fun with my friends and enjoy to meet new people.

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In the main time, I have been practicing daygame at my work.
I work as a sellsman in a toystore, 80% of the time people are nice with you and most of the client are women.
So I want to try to practice neg at work.

There is one case that I almost got a close.

so here we go.

there is a HB about 8.5-9, half japanese and half french around 25 years old.
Man she was hot, I was stress even I was only doing my job.
Unlike other sellsman, I never ask them if the customer need help. I just thrown in my opinion right the way.
F: That smurff you are looking is so cute with his hat.
HB: yea, do you know how much they cost?
F: Yea, 6$. You are japanese right?
HB: yea how do you know.
Totally ignore that phrase.
F: but you are not totally japanese...
HB: yea im french and japanese.
F: I'm japanese too.
she start to talking to me in japanese. I realize I made a mistake, so i need to recover.
F: but I was born in Canada, so i cant speak english.
we start to chat in french, Turn out she just move to Canada from Japan for 5 month. I been joking around and tease her alot, then leave her at the game section and return to my section. And I thought was then end of it.

About 5 minutes later, we cross again into each and other at the door, she smell at me then say goodbye to me and ask my name.

I dont know what to do at that point so I waited, then when she get out of the store. I went chase her.
F: hey listen, I dont know you really well but you have something special to me, I dont know if its your accent or something else but Id like to know you maybe another time in a coffee shop. can I have your phone number
HB: But we didnt know each and other... And I just move here.
F: yea but I believe you will like to know me too.
then she blow me off
HB: well, your name is froggy right? you work here often? I will come back to see you here again.
Man that fell so bad.
F: ok yea, have a good day and merry christmas.

Valentyn tell me after that I didnt build enove report between but wasnt my fault because there is a time limit at the job. But Its was still a flake.

At that point, I realize that most of the number I got are mostly flakes.

Man I hate flaky numbers.

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Date: 27 december 2011

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Oz

Location: Foufoune Electrique

So long story short, I did a lot of approaches. Also discovers a very funny opener use around Christmas:

F: I have a very serious question for you guys.
Make sure to say it with a serious face.
F: You believe that Santa exist till how old?

most people gonna go wtf. some people gonna go like wait Santa didn't exist. Or they actually answer the question.

AFter that you can either go with a story about how your friend actually believe in Santa till 12 years old, go with DHV stories.

Was a very difficult night for me. my goal was going over the A3 and isolate the target.

There was one set that worst to talk about it.
Valentin has open the set with a direct opener and hook me into the set.
It was a 5 set. 2 guy and 3 girls.
F: Hey how you guys doing.
After exchange our names, I choose my target, and start to neg her right the way.
F: wow your hair is so black, its that even real?
HB: yea, I just dye my hair. Touch.
She sound a bit drunk and she is trying to touch my chest.
F: wow, hand of the merchandise.
she touch me more.
HB: hey where do you come from?
F: guess.
she actually named 4 countries before saying China.
When I said yea, she was so happy she's clapping her hands and tell everyone in the group that im a chinese.
F: Omg calm down.
me to the other member of the group.
F: how does you guys put up with her?
They laught.
Small talk for 2 min, I saw Valentyn was waiting on his target to come back and talk to the group.
He whisper me: where is kino?
I forgot to kino...
After that I tried to touch her but its just not fell right and I didnt had the courage to isolate her so I eject the set.

After analysing the set with valentyn, I realize that I need to:
1- give more interest to the other member of the group and also much less interest to her.
2- turn her away from the group will flirting with her
3- must kino escalate.

After that set, I pretty much forced myself to open every set possible.

Its get so bad there is actually one girl that sitting by herself. I just open her and her boyfriend block me from the front then french her in front of me.

at that point valentyn call the night for us.

Overall:

open around 12 sets and get about 8 sets pass the hook points.

Positive points:

Pretty much get over the hook point. Easy for me to hook in a set.
Creat my own openers.
Build my own DHV stories.

Negative points:

Didn't able to isolate one target.
Did not Kino
Did not qualify

Need to read more material for the next sarge night.

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The next day, Valentyn talk to me about a guy named Wildgunn. a new potential wing.

So we decided to go to campus to meet him the next Thursday.

Date: 30 december 2011

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Café Campus & Tokyo

This time, I go in with some tips to try out from DJ Fuji's lecture that I just watched the day before.
So the first thing I do its to open the first set I see.
Fortunately was a bunch of Asian guys with very peacock hairstyle.

F: have you guys ever heard a guy name Herman?
I got various respond. like are you Herman or wtf or just laugh.
they end up to be a bunch of buddies that go to a dance club together.
going in to the dance floor with them later grant me a lot of IOI from the girls.
They were break dancing around. Owning the place like the shit.

Over the night, I open around 4 set with Valentyn. I have to say that we get boulder this time. all the set we opened are over 7 HB.
Then we meet this guy Wildgun. He shared some of his personal opener and DHV stories.
I decide to test some of them in field.
2 interesting set came up.

One was a single set waiting for some one. A cute looking brunette with glasses around 7.5 HB.
F: don't take its the wrong way. but you are the only girl I have seen with a bag in this club.
She laughs and said:
yea cause im waiting for some one and I didn't want to carry my wallet around.
F: If he didn't come in the next 5 minutes, just dump him.
She laughs again and start to ask my name.
I took it as an IOI.
F: I'm Froggy, what your name?
HB: I'm ....
as usual, I always shake their hand.
F: ah... your hand is sweaty. you are a nervous person, aren't you?
HB: haha, yea... I am.
She starts to ask me question about my background like do I come here often and what kind of job im doing.
once again I took it as an IOI.
However, I forget to kino escalate once again and we ran out of things to say so I simply eject myself and go join my 2 wings at the bar.

At the bar, I open the set beside us with the dump boyfriend opener.
I saw a hot, tall blond girl around 8 HB texting to someone. I came up.
F: if he don't call you back in the next 5 min, you should dump him.
Once again, the girl laughs.
HB: im actually texting to my friend.
F: oh a good friend or a *friend* im doing the 2 finger thing move.
HB: no, he is not my boyfriend.
the guy arrived.
F: I haven't present myself yet. I'm Froggy.
we exchange name.
I used the sweaty hand routine again. however this time, I actually going for a DHV stories about my highschool. Then used the ESP tricks. she was very into me.

I didnt just talk to her this time, I actually expend the conversation to include her friend in. Ask what he do for living, turn out he is studying to be a police officer. I did the mirror technique. Which you admit that you are very interest in that area too.
F: Omg no! I wanted so much to be a policeman, his my best friend now.
I'm stealing him from you.
HB: hey no, he is my best friend.
F: man you are so possessive.
she laughs.
we small talk for a bit but once the conversation turns down her friend drag her away.

later on, Valentyn told me that I should turn the target away and introduce one of my wings to take away the obstacles.

Later that night we decided to bounce to Tokyo.

Tokyo was a small and friendly club. A lot of travel agency and tourist goes to Tokyo during the vacation time.
We open around 4 sets that night. only one of them worst talk.
Valentyn open a 3 sets. They are tourist from NYC.
He introduce me and Wildgun to the group. however the group didn't dived into 3 group but 2 group. Valentyn vs 2 HB around 8. Me and Wildgun vs a HB around 7.
I start off with the same DHV stories about my highschool. Wildgun saw that she is my target so he moved away. we talk about 10 minutes.

I completely isolate her from the others.
I rush in too fast by ask her to dance, she said she'd like to but she have a boyfriend. I decide to use an AFC Adam's line.
F: are you some one spontaneous?
HB: well yea.
F: Give me a spin then.
I took her hand then give her a spin.
F: see that is not too hard. we just danced.
F: wow you have a soft hand.
HB: thanks
F: have you ever see someone palm read before?
she burst into excitement.
HB: omg you know how to palm read?
F: yes, I do.
I palm read her then we talk about futur things and career. then from there some how I lost the seduction phase. I guess I stay too long into the comfort phase.
However she give me her number for meeting up for new year.

In the same time, Valentyn kiss closed his target and we got lock in for a day2, Today in Radio lounge.

What a night!

Overall:

Gain more gaming experience, and gain also move vision on the structure of the game. Pushed limit and my comfort zone.


Positive:

1-First solid number close.
2-improvement in the A1-A3 structure
3-open easily.
4-all set pass over the hook points

Negative:

1-Not doing a lot of kino escalation. I think I not used to the touching other people that often.
2- staying in the comfort zone too long.
3- leak of material in the seduction phase.

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Congratulation for yesterday Froggy , You came as advertise, fearless how you approach mix sets and how you blow out the guys, very impressive to watch. You and Valentyn are very persistent when you enter a set and that the key to be successful in the PUA. Quick thinking, also not afraid to improvise.

You guys are big believers in communication and wanting their wingman to be successful. It was a pleasure to be going infield with both you . I will sarge with you guys again. Good luck to you and Val in day2 with the HB'S, in Radio lounge.



Happy New years and Good health to you , Valentyn and everyone in PUA Forum.

Date: 31 December 2011

Members: Valentyn & Froggy

Location: Radio Lounge

This is the day2 of the night of 30 December. Me and Valentyn have to go meet the 4 sets and my job was pretty clear distract the 3 other HB will he can build more comfort with his target then hopefully go into seduction phase.

So I was pretty nervous, how Im I gonna handle 3 girls for 2h. I don't have that much material...

Long story short. We meet then we stay in group for around 10 min. Then I propose the group to go down, since there is a dance floor downstairs. I was hopping that Valentyn can isolate his date in the same time.

That exactly what happen. Man, its wasn't my first time to the club but I felt something changed. you see, when you going in to a club with 2 HB hooked after your arm and 1 HB following you. You look like The guy. However, I still have a weak inner game, I was very very nervous. I did something that I shouldn't do. I bought them a drink.
Then we danced about 4-5 minute. I felt the need to start conversation to compensate my leak of dancing skills. But I don't know what to say and it can break the group dynamic so easily. So I just simply grab my previous target and give her a spin. grab her in the lower back.
I shout to the other 2 HB:
We look cute together!
they took a picture of us.
F: have you ever dance on a stage before?
HB that im holding: non, but I don't see any stage.
I point at the stage with the poll behind me.
HB: why don't you go up?
obviously too shy.
again, I shouldn't be the dancing monkey... but I did it.
I went up then grab her up start to dance really close to her.
Then I grab the other 2 girls up, and we danced a bit together.
I went down with my target and bring her to a corner.
We are really close to each and other.
I grab her hair and sniff it.
F: wow, your hair smells so good, what kind of shampoo do you use..?
I don't even finish my sentence then she laugh.
F: I trying so hard to not to kiss you right now.
HB: I have a boyfriend, you are a really nice person and my friends like you... I can dance with you but I can't kiss, I have a boyfriend.
I pushed her against the wall.
I whisper her to her ear.
F: If you don't have a boyfriend, would you kiss me?
HB: ... yea but I have a boyfriend.
I try to kiss her.
She turn her head and keep saying I have a boyfriend.
I just want her so shut up!
So I did some thing totally that Cajun did, just a nature reflex.
I put my finger in front of her lips.
F: chuuuut.... sweet heart, shut up!
then she stopped for 1 sec.
I dont know if I should kiss her but I count 1, 2 then kiss

We kissed for 10sec then she pushed me away and said
HB: we should go back to our friends.

Then we went back up...

Somehow, I felt terrible. I just kissed a girl who have a boyfriend.

I went up to her and grab her by a side and apologize to her.

Later on that night, a guy with a blazer came up to our set and try to grab 1 of the girls from behind.

I was like, man, I got to play the AMOG! this gonna be funny.

F: hey buddy, people never thought you that approaching some one from behind can creep them out.
guy: I'm sorry but which one is your girlfriend again?
F: They are all my girlfriends.
the guy came up to me and whisper me this.
guy: I saw you on the dance floor. your game was miserable, at one point I saw you chasing after the kiss and that kiss, you didn't earn it.
I smile.
F: PUA or not?
the guy just laugh and left.

I went to search for him downstairs. I'm always psyched to meet other people that can help my learning curve.

Finally after 15 minutes of searching I found him and his 2 wings. Just by the first look, I can see that his friends are not at the same level as him. they are newbies to the game.

He ask me how long you been in the game and what I can do so far.
So I open a 4 sets behind me and hooked into the conversation.

long story short. They meet Valentyn as my mentor and I gave my first lesson to them and figure their sticking point with them.

Positive:

-got my first kiss close.
-pushed myself into comfort phase.
-experienced C1 and C2.


Negative:

-too emotional. I need to push more into my comfort zone.
-I need to do more connection between the target and me.
-forgot to qualify myself.

Goal to do for next sarging


my big sticking point now is building report and connecting with the target.
So my next goal are
1- Isolate targets
2- Prepare more DHV story.
3- make the girl talk and get a conversation going. qualify myself to your value.
4- try to Build report.

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Date: 31 december 2011

Members: Wildgun, Froggy and some newbies

Location: Eaton Center

So this one start at my work, I was working and was getting very bored. Then I receive a text from Wildgun asking me if I have done any daygame.

This will be my first experience of day game.

So overall I open about 4 sets.

I have to say, day game have a lot of AA and most of time I hesitate on negging the target or doing good DHV stories.

I was winged by a newbie, the most of the time the conversation is heading no where.

After all, it's a different type of game. Hook into a set is really easy in day game but, you can't control where the conversation is going.
However, I find that going out for day game, eliminate your night game AA.

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Date: 1 January 2012

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Muzique (Noisy Night Club)

So I got a guesslist for Muzique. The only club with the insign " no fat girls allow" in town. I was excited. We went in early because the last time I tried with Oz, the line-up was so long that we give up after 30 min of waiting.

When we went in there is a blind man dancing in the club.
As a nice guy, I saw he drop his blind stick. I went there and give him his stick.
Then I notice a 2 sets about 7-7.5 laughing at me. I went to them.
F: what so funny about a dancing blind man. Show some respect to that man.
Its actually very funny, I said it with a funny tone.
HB 1: Well he came here every sunday.
F: are you guys regular costumes?
HB 2: We are bartanders.
F: Oh today is pretty quiete, but so far I like the setting of the club and the music is not bad.
HB 1: yea, its still too early, but we have to go prepare soon.
Dammit. I was going to use the false time constrain to sit down.
F: ok my friends are just over there, nice to meeting you guys. My name is Froggy.
Shake both girl's hands and went back to my wings.
We wait till 11h30. The club start to fill up. I swear, the HB in the club are mostly over 8. At that point, I had some AA. We decide to move. I decide to open the first set in our proximity. They were 2 mid-30s. A asian girl about 4 and a indian about 8.
F: Hey, my friends and I are debating on something and we need a woman's opinion.
Indian girl: ok.
F: One of my friend's gf kissed another person, its that cheating?
both girls: yea.
F: ok but what if she kissed a girl?
both girls: no, she was drunk or she didnt love that random girl.
F: ok, but what if my friend is a lesbian?
they were like wtf faces.
Wildgun went in to help me out. we spit up to 2 groups, me with the asian chicks and him with the indian. We exchanged name after 2 min of small talks.
One of the first routine I like to do in conversation is to ask people's background.
F: you must came from Philippine.
HB: wow, how do you know.
F: I just took a chance .
HB: where you came from?
I knew, this happen every time.
F: guess.
then we gone 2 more min on the background.
in the same time, Wildgun neg about over 5 times that other girl. She had a big bitch shield.
They whisper something between them.
HB 2 ask me: you are chinese?
F: yea and you must be Indian.
HB 2: wow, and your friend thought I was Libanese.
she give him a playfully punch.
we went back to 2 groups. I slidly turn my target away by touching her shoulder.
Wildgun did a big mistake by introducing Valentyn into the set.

Never invite more wing into a set if the number of wings already match the number of people in that set.

After that I open 6 more sets but I got blow off of 4 sets. I never experience that in the last 2 weeks. Its like back to the first night. It felt so bad. There is one set, I got AMOG so bad that I looked like a total loser.
The bitch shield in this club is really high.

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Valentyn was very tired, that was our first time sarging 4 times a weeks in a roll.

After Muzique, me and Wildgun went to GoGo Lounge, guess what, for the first time in the hole month, I fck up with openers. I can't even use a opener properly. My AA was so high, Its like im a total newbie.

I decide to move out.
That night was a slap in the face.

Positive :

1- Approached sets even if I felt a lot of AA.
2- keep my smile even if I have a lot of pressure.
3- Keep my body language, didnt lean in or look needy.
4- Good management of my AA.

Negative :

1- Did not neg enough.
2- Did not use any learned material to disarm or befriend AMOGs.
3- Did'nt have a str Inner game.


My new Goals :

1- Use at least 1 neg on the target per sets hook in.
2- Be more playfull and tease the target.
3- Approach at least 1 mixte group and befriend or disarm the AMOG.
4- Continue with Isolation A3-C1 transition.

My biggest sticking point is not to get ride of my "Nice guy" arch-type.
I really need tips to get the "Leader" or alpha male look or mentality, if there is one.

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I'm going to Chez Serge tonight, hopefully I can get some things done.

Any tips on Alpha male are welcome.

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Hello Froggy, I am currently following your friend's journal and I will be more than happy to follow your journal as well since I'm from Montreal too!

I didn't take the time to read all your journal yet, but I noticed you went to fouf electrik? Did you go on a thuersday night? In my opinion, it's the best place to game.

Also, if you are looking for a cheap place to pre-drinks before going to clubs, you might want to have a look at "la station des sports" on St-Catherine. Meals are 5$ and If I remember, 4-5l pitchers are like 17$. Which is almost NOTHING.!

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Yea we went to Fouf last Tuesday, was crazy. The line up was so huge and there is so many sets. I love the place. I dont drink that much before game, the reason is because I can't drink a lot. usually 4-5 beers and I become very red. So usually, I just drink 1-2 bottle.

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Date: 5 January 2012

Members: Wildgun, Froggy and Vik

Location: Chez Serge (BAR) then Thursdays (NOISY NIGHT CLUB-BAR)

Chez Serge was empty, there is a fell set but most of them are mixte sets. There goes my challenge with AMOGs. I open 2 sets during the night. first one was a blow off.

For the second one, I used the mechanical bull, so i went to get a ride on the bull then made a bond with the group just did it. a 3 sets 1 guy with 2 girls, one brunette around 6 and a blonde about 8.5. First, I thought the brunette was his gf so I beging small talk with the guy and the brunette and ignore and tease the blonde. Then I learn that the blonde is his gf. I was so sad at that point. Cause I wont isolate her in front of his bf. So I end up chatting with them and made friend with both of them.

We left Chez Serge around 1:30AM. The blond girl give me her number and her bf's number so we can keep in touch. Made some new friends and new social circle.

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