Hi all,

My friend’s gf had two new female SPAM that moved into her place. I went there a couple of times and met the new girls with a quick introduction. The second time we were all drinking a bit and I asked one of them out, she agreed.

So we went out, had a good time and really connected. She gave me hints that she was ready to be kissed. I did kiss her as we were in Winter Wonderland, just before a ride.

We went out on a second date to a bar, had a nice fun and deep conversation. Again, we kissed in the bar and really connected. Then we went back to my place to smoke shisha and have a glass of wine. We were having fun, chilling and talking. We kisssed a few times and I suggested a massage and she agreed. So I gave her a massage and she took her top off after a little hesitation, she liked it. Gave her a nice massage and we spoke etc - I respected that she didn't wanna have sex.

Told her she should stay over and I can drop her off to work in the morning. She agreed but wanted to pick her work clothes off first. So she did and she stayed at mine and we cuddled etc.

Next morning I dropped her off. Tried calling her a few days later, but, her phone was dead. I text her friend, her friend says her phone was stolen, and that she should call her phone the next day.

I call her friend the next day and speak to the girl I went out with. I make small talk and ask how her week is shaping up. She says she hasn't been given her rota yet. She said she'd call me when she gets a new phone.

Today I text her friend asking her if she could get my date to call me when they're together. I haven't had a response, even though I know they were together.

Now, my question is - what's my next step?

I promised you I'd post a reply on PUAchat, so here's that.

I think you're giving it too much attention, too much thought, and making too many moves, constantly calling her friend like that. Leave it be, give it time, if she's interested she'll call, if not, then you can't force interest by nagging.

First of all at that lil "Stay over" at your place YOU SHOULD'VE BANGED HER! (im like,dude-- you cuddled!) worst case scenario is she prolly think your a "nice guy" now! (and you never,i mean NEH-VER wants a girl to think that). As for the "you calling her friend thingy" thats major DLV,Neediness and not very "Alpha". Oh and the stolen phone thingy? one of the oldest out there. Ive spend enuf time with groupz of girlz to know. This one girl got a call (4rm a guy) while on the fone she pulled all these faces to her friends,she was stil polite tho. After the call she go "ah.. Can you believe that guy? fuckin annoying!" im sittin there thinkin "Poor guy".
Now you dnt wana be the Poor guy.
Use ask whats the next step? i say take a step back! dont think bout it too much,remember shes just some random girl. I dnt think this an "Oneitis" situation,but yeah take ya foot of the accelerator and cruise.
anyway goodluck mate.

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Okay... if she's a virgin or something then I can accept the fact that she stayed but you haven't fucked, altough I'd still think it would have been a better solution if she didn't want to fuck that she wouldn't have stayed at all.

Now what's up with you, calling her all the time? That's needy man. Girls don't like that. Look. Take it like this: I bet you like your mom... BUT what does it feel like, when your mom calls you every 2 hours? Annoying isn't it? She'll feel EXACTLY the same if you do that.

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Yep ^^

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The MORE you WANT it, the LESS your chances are of LOSING it! -Lol i dont know who said that so ima claim it.

Hey,

Thanks for your input.

I only called her friend once when we spoke on Saturday and sent one text on Monday asking her friend to pass the msg to call me.

I'm 100% about the phone being stolen - I've been told by my friend's gf too.

I know I should have gone all the way with and persisted on the night, but, it's frustrating for me to keep thinking about that now.

I'm thinking of waiting a week or so?

I'm thinking of that you should just move on. Let me give you a hint which I was given quite some time ago. It will save you lots of trouble:

----------->GAME MULTIPLE WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME

Now as I've become more confident with myself, and I know that I can have the girl even if I go just after her(or that even if I won't have her, I couldn't care less) I no longer follow this rule, but still it's just rather my laziness and lack of time.

You however...as a clear beginner should stick to this. It will boost your confidence knowing that you have other opportunities if you fail with one of them, it will keep you away from one-itis, and if the girls know that you have some women around you they will also become more interested.

Of course...you should stop gaming the other girls if you get into an exclusive relationship with one. We're not cheaters and the #1 rule is still "Leave her better than you found her"

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Hey guys,

Quick update. She sent me a text this morning asking how I am and telling me this is her new number.

I'll keep you all updated.

Your advice/opinions are much appreciated.

Athy

That's really good news. Now just don't fuck up . Wait for her to bring up the meeting thing and get yourself busy with other stuff in the meantime.

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