Hey

I'm abit drunk at the moment, but I went to this party 2nite and my plan was to not drink. When i rock up at 6, the party was already full of drunk girls and all my mates were a bit off their heads as well.

I ask for a beer and my friend gave me one, this lasted me for 2 hours because i just wanted to focus on my game, during that two hours i didn't approach a single girl i didn't know.

After that beer i realized I suck at this, and the pressure of drinking was even more evident because i realised that i was almost the only sober person there.......anyway

the whole night i find it hard to approach girls who I didn't know. All the times I met a girl was when they interrupted my conversation and then asked what my name was. I feel like they are doing the work for Ime. I did open up one two set with a "can i get your opinion" opener though. Worked great.....til' i was unable to change the topic of the conversation, usually I can thread though to different conversations but I was getting nervous...

In a few hours of meeting the girl she was kino'ing me every 10 seconds literally, mostly hands and thigh slapping, but I was giving her abit to many negs and just abit of C&F, wiat make that alot of C&f..probably too much.

My two main questions is this.
1) does lots of kino when a girl is drunk a IOI? because, i met around 6 girls because they opened me saying "wuts ur name" and "you are funny / interesting"....I have a feeling that being my age, 17, and at a party like this, girls are more promiscious, as a way to look at it.

2) Give me some examples of phase-shifting, just like what to say to put her on the spot once you get enough IOI's?

and another question is, can you pretty much kiss the girl if she is giving bulk IOI's (while drunk, and doing it to other guys as well) and right up in your face...

Thanks for reading.

hey man,

lemme answer a couple of your questions for ya..
1) kino in that sense is ALWAYS an IOI haha if 6 girls are comming up to u telling u ure funny interesting and touching u then they are ALL giving u IOI's lol respect.

3) if a girl is giving u bulk IOI's then for sure u can kiss her, but run some compliance tests to be sure..if she wont hold ure hand, she for sure wont kiss you! and dont forget a cool kiss close...in regard to her IOI'ing the other guys...well it sounds like she is playing you guys lol...i think u gotta lock in and isolate this girl before you can start the kiss close etc..

just my opinons!! good luck man

I did ask her her hands and ran the ESP test...(I find using canned routines n such a bit lame but since im a AFC I want to just test some of them out, I will definitely start thinking of my own material once I actually learn some social dynamics). BTW the test was a complete failure, in the end I was just like "looks we don't have a connection, we can't be friends sorry"


I doubt she was playing me because she wasn't asking for any drinks or anything, only thing she kept demanding was the fact we were 'best friends'. Every sentence had the words "best friend" in it.....not really a IOI in my opinion because if she is insisting we are friends then yea....doesn't give me much help.

I'm pretty sure I could have kiss closed her, I was just annoyed that I wasn't even opening any of the other HB's at the party, because of my AFC AAness.

Not being cocky or anything but I believe I'm a pretty funny and interesting guy....hopefully I will be able to hone my skills soon.

But yea.....still wouldn't mind someone explaining some indepth phase shifting to me.

Hey man. Sounds like you got some pretty big IOI's:)

If they are already that into you I don't think that you really have to do any routines. Just hold EC and do some kino in order to escalate things. Another thing is that many drunk girls don't really get the routines.

Don't be too hard one yourself. Learning how to handle approach anxiety is at times very difficult. Sounds like you are already on your way to success regarding this since you actually approached a set.

Best of luck

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when i mean playing you i dont mean in a bad way, but in the sense that girls play their own game too...girls know that they can spark attraction in guys by flirting with more then one guy and using the jealousy plot line..it works wonders for girls..

in terms of the canned material feeling lame, dude thats totally normal.. all my AFC friends think im crazy...they hear some of my openers and literally pay me out, saying itll never work and that its lame. They seem to shutup when they see me making out with HB 9 half an hour later hahah

the whole her calling you best friends? i mean thats totally something I would do to a girl in a set..its an awesome disqualifier! if you say to a girl, we are gonna be best friends over and over shes gonna start thinking..hang on, why is he only wanting to be friends? most guys dont wanna be friends with me........and the next thing you know they are intrigued and interested in you...im thinking IOI

approach anxiety - we all get it, with practice and the 3second rule u can beat it. USE the 3 second rule and start off with a UG set, its great for the confidence. On that note, and i hope to spread this message to more people..when u see a really UG complement her on how she looks, i promise you, you will have made her night..these girls get rejected, and ignored 24/7, one nice comment means the world to them!

cheers