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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:19 pm 
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Lol im a psych major and i have explored this particular concept and trust me it is not as simple as that. Be careful doing this in a relationship. If she realizes what you are doing, reactance will kick in and she will rebel against you.

Manipulation only sounds good on paper.

If sex is going south and you are not 60, it could be that you are losing interest in each other. Either move on or spend some time apart.

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Thanks for the information. Why wouldnt work for a one stand? Is it the one night part? Or the possible multiple partners parts? The way I'm reading it is that I could be doing this early as possible. And if my one night becomes more I don't have to work as hard. Also, I could try stupid shit like slamming the door or terrorist jam.

This method would not work as for it is a learning method. A one night stand would not work because it is a ONE night stand, it is not enough time, for you won't be spending multiple nights with her to learn to associate two things together. As for relationships or fuck buddies, you can use this method over time on the same person, where she learns to associate two things together.


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Lol im a psych major and i have explored this particular concept and trust me it is not as simple as that. Be careful doing this in a relationship. If she realizes what you are doing, reactance will kick in and she will rebel against you
1) I mentioned in my post that I tried it, and in fact... it's actually pretty simple. Because it's a process where it takes multiple times before its properly executed, people get lazy and/or forget.. maybe thats what might be hard for you idk.

2) She'll rebel against the fact that I manipulated her into liking blow jobs? I think it would be funny if she even found out, plus I think she would reward me with another blow job for even trying to spice up our sex again. However, she wouldn't be too fond of me being part of a community that teaches men how to manipulate women to the sack. Every interaction is manipulation whether you know you're doing it or not. I guess it is a risk I have to take.


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Its the illusion that you are manipulating them when in fact it is a concsious choice from her in the first place. The only difference you have made is that you are actually focusing on your interactions again.

Ive done this to a girl naturally and whenever i would slouch it would make her want to give me a bj. When you pull your girls hair, she "thinks" bj but if she didnt want it she would not do it anyways.

When you hear the clinging of the utensils you think food and makes you want to eat. This type of signal will make you want to eat if you are hungry in the first place, otherwise it would not be that strong of a signal. Its the same with what you are doing here. The hair pulling makes her think bj, and trigger some sort of physiological responses but if there is no underlying hunger to give you a bj, she wont do it.

This is nothing revolutionary we do this type of thing unconsciously all the time. In psychology there way more powerful manipulation tactics than classical conditioning and i have tried them. My statement of refraining from manipulation is a general statement that manipulation is our unconscious way of hiding from pain and the fear of facing what is in front of us. It always bites you back in the end.

If your relationship is on the rocks bad sex is just a symptom of it and simply treating that particular area will only give you temporary relief just like how manipulation will give you temporary control.

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Abso-fucking-lutely amazing. Good post my man. I'm gonna try this with my girl. Like tomorrow! Thanks!

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If I'm fuckin with this chick that I know I'm not the only one fuckin her, would this need to be done to her continuously or everytime she fucks? Do I need to call all the other motherfuckas and tell them to do the same thing? Forgive my language, Im the only dude in the dept in work, so I can't exactly say what's on my mind.


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