Hey all! I figured this forum was a better source of info on men, relationships, and all that good stuff than Cosmo or Glamour. I might also be useful to anyone who needs the female perspective.

Just make sure you see the forest through the trees.

So I get that you're warning me not to lose sight of the big picture but I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Could you clarify?

Read my introduction thread as to the relativity of seeing the forest through the trees. It's very easy to make a snap judgement when faced with some of the content you find on this forum, some things can appear sleazy and objectifying when you take them at face-value, I made this mistake, but the many wonderful people that do use this forum have responded accordingly and I now see things in a somewhat different light. Welcome to the forum.

ahh I see. I'll try not to overgeneralize. O also, reading all the attempts at picking you up made me giggle.

I am one of the editors for "Way of the Player" and funnily enough we get A LOT of girls signing up and following our material.

In some of the surverys we have done with our readers we have found that as many as one third of them are curious women like yourselves. It would seem that a lot of women want to be up to date on the seduction scene.

Whether that is to ensure they are not unwittingly seduced by clever men with questionable intentions or whether they plan on somehow using the material/knowledge themselves comes down to the individual.

Either way I think an open minded female opinion doesn't hurt so long as they understand that this is a boys club and they are guests and it is a privilige to be able to remain.

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Well im glad Lacey loves us now. Welcome vdentata

Thanks everyone! It is a privilege to be welcomed and included. At the same time, it is also a privilege for the guys here to have access to women willing to draw on their own experiences and unique perspectives to help them.

This, I haven't read her post, but she hit the nail on the head.

Also,

A. Most of the people on here who flood the boards are 16-21 year olds in high school/college just trying to sleep with the prettiest girl they know, best female friend, whatever. They are not representative of the ideals being taught with these methods.

B. Just about every person here is someone in flux. A lot of people are developing themselves into their ideal of who they want to be, so it's not uncommon for someone like that to say something one day, and have a completely different perspective on it the next.

Overall, welcome to the community, a lot of these tactics and things taught aren't male exclusive, we are basically turning an art women have been using since the beginning of time and applying it to our social lives.

k so here's something I learned from the forum-
Men really can't stand when a girl they're seeing has hooked up with their friend(s) -bothers them way more than I thought. It kind of makes sense now though. A guy I was seeing a while back thought I had sex with his best friend before him. When he found out I didn't, he looked so relieved.

Fair observation or does this mostly apply to puas and people with fragile egos?

Imagine if we were in a dating situation? Breakfast in bed, hot chocolate, home cooked pancakes, rhymic jazz music, and all of that. How would you feel if I slept with one of your friends before you?

Would you feel like I had said these lines to someone else? If I had done the SAME routine with pancakes and vigorous morning sex before? You'd be lying if you said no. The thought may cross your mind, but it may not make you as crazy as others.

We (people, especially those attempting to be alphas) want to be first, the best, and what not. Some people are more secure with themselves than others.

Long story short,
Yes, it would bother most guys. Me personally? A little, but I'd laugh and make some joke about "well, at least your taste in men is improving, but hey you have to learn from your mistakes, right?"

Actually, who my bf had sex with before me doesn't bother me. My friend and I even accidentally walked in him having sex at a party (before we dated we were friends. i was with someone else at the time). It really didn't bother me at all. I would tease him about it while we were dating.

However, it did get to me when he would describe how in love he was (at the time) with his first ex and describe his second ex as being ridiculous hot. It just highlighted the ways our relationship was deficient: he was more in love with ex1 and more attracted to ex2. But the breakfast and jazz stuff doesn't really bother me. If making me breakfast in bed is one of the ways he shows affection, I don’t care if he’s done it before. I just see it as he liked those girls before but now he likes me.

It looks like you're breaking it down in a little more depth than I was. Anyways, well all have some sort of insecurity as to how they felt (your feelings) or what they did (your boyfriend's feelings) with those before us.

There's a reason thrift store clothes are so cheap, and the virtually same clothes are so expensive in department or name brand stores.

The only question I ask about someone's past is if they're clean and tested. I honestly don't care who or how many people you have been with in the past. I only care how it pertains to me (read: will this girl give me the herp? Hepatitis? Or some other affliction starting with an H?). But a lot of guys (people) aren't there yet.