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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:53 pm 
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Been shooting myself in the foot over this since last night....

Anyway, met girl at a club last night and I'm a social outgoing fun person so when I starting studying natural game like RSD (blueprint, rsd nation, and a bunch of youtube videos) a few weeks ago, It was easy for me to internalize. Im naturally a positive self reflective person and always love improving and learning. So I've banging this stuff into my head since and I feel its becoming real and genuine.


So I was in a good state most of the night at the club and didn't let any of my blowouts affect me at all and just saw it as funny but my only downfall is that im inexperienced. I pulled and danced with a few girls and got like 2 numbers.


And the furthest I got escalation wise was with a hb8 who I was REALLY attracted too ... I opened with something like "I gotta say youre real adorable and fun, lets dance!" and I had strong eye contact and a fun confident easy going vibe so I pulled her in and we danced for a few minutes. She then started pulling me to a quiet area near the stairs to talk. And I said something along of the lines like "woah where are we going, you're trying to seduce me aren't you" All of this happened while we kept close contact with our bodies, holding hands, etc. She even nibbled on my ear when I had her against the wall and I weakly kissed against her neck with my lips but for some reason I couldn't get the make out after 3 attempts. Everything moved way too fast for me to remember what I actually said.
She even called me out saying "why are you so focused on the kiss" she then told me she had to go back to her friends and I managed to get a peck on the lips.
I feel like I could've actually gotten so much further. And been over analyzing what I did wrong. I'm thinking I didn't built enough rapport and was too outcome dependent. In hindsight I it was basically me just trying to get that kiss and failing. I should've gotten to know her more I even remember saying something like "if you dont kiss me ill walk away" and she said ok then I did but turned around after and said im kidding.


I know she had a strong attraction for me but it was me who messed up. I think I tried to escalate way too fast and didn't build enough rapport. Not sure what we even talked about but in reality it was like 3 minutes I was alone with her.
I felt like I was rushing and I should've be more alert, aware and in the moment and actually enjoy whats going on as its happening and I missed that since I was FOCUSING so much on what to do next. And I could've been more persistent since I feel like I could've actually gotten her to stay if I wanted too. I realized I also never asked for her number ... my game is so sloppy.


Anyway heres the kicker. I FOUND her on FB and just requested her a few minutes ago, and I want to message her and see her again but I have NO idea what to say and I'm not sure if she even remembers me!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:00 am 
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If a girl in a club wants to kiss you, she'll kiss you, and even when she you don't do straight into it. Tease her and back away. This shows that your not every other dude that just settles for a drunken pash. You shouldn't have focused on the kiss, in this situation I wouldv'e just number closed and gone and done my own thing. Then she may have come back later.


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If a girl in a club wants to kiss you, she'll kiss you, and even when she you don't do straight into it. Tease her and back away. This shows that your not every other dude that just settles for a drunken pash. You shouldn't have focused on the kiss, in this situation I wouldv'e just number closed and gone and done my own thing. Then she may have come back later.
I agree you should have walked away and opened a set close by and returned later or number closed and said you had to get back to your friends, freeze her out.
You seemed to do everything else right though. It's hard to game girls when your thinking of the next step, just enjoy the conversation, increase the kino and the rest will fall into place.
Good job though.


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yes she will kiss you but maybe not around her friends. Try to relocate her and be alone with her. Thats when you try when she feels she might not be judged by her friends. This is a great set. Thanks for sharring. Look forward to hearing more from you.

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What can have blocked you from K-closing is that you had her against the wall. From my experience it's MUCH easier to kiss-close a girl if you put yourself with the back against a wall.

I've found it's some primal instinct where she feels uncomfortable/cornered/threatened if you block all her ways of escaping, while if you are the "cornered one" she feels much more comfortable/playful/daring in the situation.


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There could have been a million different things going on here or reasons in her head for doing what she did. hard to say based on the info given... I agree with the others though that the smart thing would have been a tease or two then if you still didnt get compliance move on and play a little jealousy action at her.

If I get a hb who for some reason is clearly avoiding something like a straight kiss I usually joke bout them being some kind of neck fetishist.. or ear fetishist... goof on them for what they ARE doing at the expense of the lip kiss, tell her she must be afraid because shes a sub par kisser and if that doesn't work... bounce....

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