Thank you for this. This gives me a lot of insight. You are going to need to come up with something whitty to get her attention and get her talking again #1. You still have a ways to go before you can get her #.

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Okay no problem must making sure.

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I'm in my school's environmental club. I really like the club president. She's the one that invited me since I initiated a conversation with her on the bus. Anyway, I applied for the membership director position and I got it.

I'm supposed to recruit people and get publicity for the group.

Anyway she put a message on the club's facebook group:

Potential Flash mob Song: It's a youtube link, but I can't post links b/c I'm new so the name of the video is:

I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You ...

Thoughts?

What would be a good/witty response?

My first thoughts were:

Choosing the song is the easy part. Now who's going to make the choreo?

^I know there's a better response, but I just can't come up with one.

I'm going on a tangent here, but any advice on getting her attention/initiating a conversation with me (both facebook and real life)

She doesn't seem to acknowledge me the bus even though I've started conversations with her. Nor does she care to reciprocate and start convos?

what do you think I should say?
I need something clever, I', not good at clever im good at just talking

EDIT: I got it, ill judt do what i do best, speak the truth.

"Are you telling me your to cool to respond to my message? Ask a girl what's her favorite super power and expect it scare her away by letting her assume its a proposal in disguise or something. :p"

Thanks for your post. This is going to bring up a point that I really want to make. There are times when Real Life Game and Online Game blend a little bit. For this particular kind of situation don't go Online when you can see her in real life!!! The premise is very simple.

With Online Game we go back to RULE #1 "Get her offline and in front of you as fast as possible!" With online game you are using it to build attraction, and mostly comfort. You continue to build her comfort level up until you can get a phone number. Then from there you use the phone via text or calling to build more rapport with the girl until she is comfortable enough with you to go on a date.

Side track for a moment...this is why Online Dating sites are preferred to social networking sites like Facebook. With online dating sites it is assumed everyone on the site wants to date! With a social networking site you don't sign up for that very important "purpose" which is why people get more results on online dating sites than social networking sites overall.

Going back to our main point. Since you already see this girl in person you need to proceed trying to get her attention, and build attraction with her. Online is not a substitute or alternative for trying to do things in person in any way shape or form beyond furthering an existing relationship, the same as you would via text, or calling her.

Come up with something witty to say about that song when you see her in person. And see what you can think of ahead of time to use as a potential DHV story to start building attraction with her.

Based on what you said for the fact that she doesn't seem to care or reciprocate conversation it sounds as if she isn't interested. That could either mean she doesn't like you or she is waiting for you to try harder. Reintiating the chat with her well tell you if you are in or out with her.

Best of luck!

Jon

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Dear God in Heaven please don't send this message! Really put yourself in her shoes and read this stuff before you send it out. If it can be misconstrued in any way or taken the wrong way then don't send it. You have to remember that over email, text, and the telephone women can't see your body language or "how" you said this. They have to just see or hear the words themselves.

When I read just what you wrote it comes off as VERY ARROGANT...basically if it were me I would think you are an asshole that I'm not going to speak to. Sorry, maybe someone will disagree with me on this one but I'm very sensitive to this stuff having done it a while.

Let me try to give you an example of what to try to open her back up with. "Hey Fijian I'm sorry I haven't written you back. I've been crazy busy this week. How are things going with you?"

I know it seems really really simple but the point is to get her talking again. Allow me to break this down for you. If she doesn't ever talk to us again we're done right? Thus, I say we've been really really busy this week (slight DHV).

I also act like WE were the ones that were suppose to write her back. This takes the pressure off her from saying you were suppose to write me back. That kind of pressure and akwardness can loose girls online very easily. So we use the excuse WE were busy and it was OUR fault for not messaging her back. This makes it VERY EASY for her to respond to us.

Then we simply ask her how things are going with her and her week. It's not asking for a lot. We're not having her qualify to us, negging her, or anything like that. We are just trying to get her talking again.

Feel free to just copy and paste my words and send it to her.

GOOD LUCK,

Jon

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it worked, she responded! (something about the phone app deleting her msg)

She said: Haha yeah that's totally it! You caught me, darn :p no I don't really like the phone app cause when you delete messages it deletes other messages you didn't even delete lol soo stupid butttt my favorite super power would have to be flying that just would be awesome the possibilities are endless but I would also like the mind reading, invisibility, speed, and super strength but you said one so yeah

so i responded with this: Haha, lets not get greedy :p, only one! I didn't even think of invisibility, you creeper! You would so use your
powers for evil . So would you say your a spontaneous person, someone who's ready to do anything
whenever, or needs lots of mental preparation?

alright can I get help as to what i should start heading towards for a number? (p.s i dont wanna fuck this up lol)

Okay, I'm probably going to piss you off but here is the deal. I'm not going to assist you with the whole pick up.

Thread Rule #2 I love to write but I'm not you're personal writer. I will answer all kinds of "How do I..." questions, but please take my responses and put them in your own words. If you do not, when you meet the girl she will notice there are incongruencies very quickly. The way I say things might not work for you, so take the concept and then write your own response please.

The second part of that is this... It's okay to fuck up. Messing up and making mistakes is how we LEARN to do better.

Here is my final tip for you and then you are out on your own like a young kid getting thrown in the deep end of the pool....so don't drowned. You need to start actually doing things to build genuine rapport with her. Actually get to know her... Find out about her life, her family, her past, her present, what she wants for her future. This will take more than a few messages. Once you gain that rapport with her...then getting a # or a date is very easy.

Best of luck,

Jon

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Haha, no i didn't expect you to write it out for me, I was just looking to see what i should ask her next. this is exactly what i was looking for "Find out about her life, her family, her past, her present, what she wants for her future." because I thought those were boring questions that they wernt interested in answering. Seemed like interview questions. Alright if I succeed its all thanks to you still. =)

The reason I put that is you asked what to do at your last sticking point in the interaction. Now you are asking what to do now that she's replied to you. So it seems like you want me to pick her up for you and then hand her over to you when I'm done.

Anyways, yes those questions are tiring and boring but here is the truth. In order to build and establish comfort those things are going to need to be discussed. There are better ways to ask about them and better questions to ask to get to find those things out but they do need to be discuseed. These are questions she is going to want the answers to before the relationship can go deeper.

You don't have to say, "Where did you grow up?" You can think of more unique ways to get the same information out of her. Things like, "What was growing up like for you? or What were you like as a kid?" Sure spice in those questions like what super power would you have to liven things up. But ulitmately there are just some things she is going to want to know about you that are universal.

PEACE

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oh, ok. Got it.

FYI I go to a really big high school (3600+ kids, so it's hard to find her)

Btw, I only see her once or twice a week on the bus for about 15 minutes at most. I avoid using fb now because that's what my friends told me to do, and so did you. Anyway I had this small conversation with her last night and managed to convince her to ride the bus that morning. I got on the bus and I saw her, and then she moved seats and I took her old seat, which was opposite to hers. I should have sat next to her, but I wanted to save the conversation during breakfast. So for the whole bus ride, I stared at the window and so did she. When the bus got to school, I got off and waited for her to notice me, but she didn't. Like i was waiting to see if she would initiate/greet me. I was trailing behind her until she got into the school. UNFORTUNATELY, she deviated from the entrance and went somewhere else, like the portables (outside classrooms.) I was going to call her out, but I didn't. I just hesitated. I kept making excuses not to because I'd appear to be "needy" or "chasing" her. So I managed to screw up our breakfast plans.

Anyway, after school, I got on the bus and a couple minutes later, she got on the bus and sat across the aisle from me. And again she didn't acknowledge me. So I go back a couple seats back because I didn't feel like talking to her. Then I decided to get off the bus for a couple of minutes, and then walk back on to see if she would notice me. And when I walked back onto the bus, I passed her, and she said hey, and I said hey back and I went back and sat across the aisle and talked to her. The conversation was pretty casual. Anyway, she told me that she saw me get off the bus and then I "disappeared", and she couldn't find me. Some hiccups here and there, but I thought it was pretty casual and okay. She was planning a "flash mob dance rehearsal at her house and asked me to come up with some choreography. Anyway, I told her she owed me a rain check for skipping on me at breakfast before she got off the bus haha.

I talked to some people on the bus, and they told me, she is "oblivious" to other guys and focuses more on academics, which I may have to agree with. Anyway, my guyfriend's girlfriend who got on the bus that day, asked me if I liked her because she had this 6th sense and could tell if I liked her. And I said maybe, then yes haha. Those two are now my "advisors". Anyway, what do you think?

This should probably be in "mid game", but I just wanted to follow up for after the online stuff.

Last time I messaged her was November 21 and then ten days later on December 1.

Thanks for the advice!

HB: are you in apes?

Me: ?

HB: ap environmental
haha

Me:?

HB: nevermind....
XD
i meant AP Environmental Science

Me: Oh okay now i understand
hw help? 0.o
hey do you wanna get some coffee tomorrow morning?

^(I just asked her straight off the back because she stopped responding. I should have read b4utxther before making any moves haha.)

HB: I have to go to a Model UN conference at 9

Me: Uhm i was thinking 7:15...?


HB: Haha my poor driver would kill me if I made her get up that early XD
another time though!


Me: hey wait a second....
that's not environmentally friendly!

HB: Lol much as I love the environment, walking to School is not HB-Friendly

Me: tsk tsk tsk
bus?
the yellow monstrosity...

HB: lol
the yellow submarine
(which is much less cool bc it's on land and no beatles live in it)


Me: no its a monster, it growls
where the wild things are

HB:
since when? XD

Me: since kindergarten
lemme guess u wake up at 7:00 and leave at 7:15?

HB: good guess!
lol
And that's no later than 6:30 to you

Me:
how do you miss the submarine then?

HB: haha i can always find ways to miss the bus
I'm just a pro
also a pro at maneuver to get around school traffic and sneak through back entrances to still make it on time
yay!

haha whoaa I'm going to go out on a limb here for being a total lamebo. I thought tomorrow was saturday (it's been a long week) XD So yes I can get coffee in the morning (i prefer hot cocoa personally lol)
planning to ride the bus as well
for once.....

Me: rnt u too busy avoiding the submarine and being a ninja through traffic?
i'm surprised you havent been hit
your like a walking zombie with all the sleep youre getting XD

HB
On any other day, yes! But tomorrow, I'm conforming to the system. xD
I would like to inform you that I got 6 whopping hours of sleep last night.
a personal best this year

Me:
That deserves a celebration
You should break that record and get 7 hours today!

HB:
oh no... i still have an apush essay to write
let's not get crazy!
XD

Me:
=/
all right
okay so youre bringing money to pay for two hot cocoas right?

HB:
..... is this some kind of a plot to get me to buy you a hot cocoa?? XD

Me:
what?!
no!
I'm offended!
okay fine....
mebee
fine i'll pay for it...
this time only though

HB:
lol! you don'
t have to pay for mine

Me:
no i meant ill pay for mine

HB
haha just makin sure!
XD

Me: what do u eat to break the fast>
on a "normal" day

HB:
ummm idk..toast?
XD

Me:
hmm
do you fancy the school's amazing menu?

HB:
hmm not particularly lol
i prefer toast
and fruit of the blue variety

Me:
it's not too bad haha
i always wake up late like at 6:40
and hav to be there by 6:50
so b-fast at school is the only option haha
so u should save your appetite for it!

Me:
well good luck on your APUSH essay

HB:
thanks!

Me:
I'm going to get my butterfly net and catch some zzz's now
kthxbai

HB
night!

Hey man,

whats a good way to restart a convo that was intially going very good but the girl stopped replying?

EDITED BY JSMOOTH

^There's a good thing to start off with

You gotta pay for the information on that site tho bro