I have been in a long streak of girls flaking. So I have come down to two conclusions. Either It's me or the people in this town. Anyone have any tips that they found useful for preventing flakes??

you cant blame the girls , i'm just pulling out of the streak myself i think it happens to all good pua's

1) keep talking to more women always , keep pulling them so you always have backups

2) i have found that being more funny and teasing them more keeps them more interested and makes any phone/text conversation more fun

3) ask deeper questions to them so they feel like they have invested more

4) stop giving a fuck and never be desperate

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There are two reasons a girl would flake.

1) That particular girl is so passionate about living in the moment that making plans of any kind mean nothing to her. I have a friend like that. They're just flakes by nature.

2) She only made the date to be nice, and never intended to keep it in the first place. This is because you didn't do your job as a PUA making her FEEL it.

Now, #1s are actually pretty rare over the early 20s. If you're after women who are younger than that, you have to remember that the frontal lobe is the most evolved part of the brain, and thats the part that deals with executive function like making and following through with plans. It also takes the longest to reach FULL maturity. That's why the drinking age is 21. Because that's approximately the time the frontal lobe reaches full maturity and allows executive function the potential to work at peak effectiveness. Doesnt mean it always DOES, but its at least CAPABLE. In this day and age, adults who live completely in the moment without regard to past or future are rare.

So its much more likely that you simply aren't making them FEEL the fun and attraction that makes them WANT to see you again. Everyone has off days, no matter how skilled, and a bad day or two can hurt your confidence, encouraging more and causing a vicious circle that results in a streak of not performing at your best.

I'm not trying to be mean here, because denying that your actions need to improve in order for your results to improve isn't going to solve your problem.

If you want to work on that and see better results, why don't we talk about your pickup strategy?

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the way i see it, it boils down to 3 things

1)lack of comfort with being with you, and not enough connection (with enough of this most girls will meet you no matter what, even if it is a ljbf situation)

2)lack of attraction (she thinks your ugly and said yes to your plans to be nice but she knows she doesn't want to meet you, or you turned her off big time and same thing, nice but knows shes going to flake)

3)actually has something else to do, maybe it is something better, maybe it is something completely irrelivant

4)I know i said there were 3 things, but sometimes girls are just CRAZY, it could be that she is just CRAZY

A girl flakes because she gets buyers remorse or she didnt plan on go at all.

Anyways its because you didnt get her interested enough. People always numberclose too fast and rush it. Take your time to build a connection. Stay in the set, get them to trust you!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Thanks for the help. And I can definitely see your suggestions making sense. And I'm farely new to pick up so I'm not a PUA yet. Basically I've known most of these girls a while. And I would hate to say it's my attractiveness because I get complements all the time.

You see, I used to think it was all just physical until I learned that it's mostly mental. I'm 5'11, I play college soccer and I have dirty blonde hair and blue eyes. So I think the problem is my lack of knowledge and personality, which is how I got into pick up.

I can see myself trying to rush things and being nervous because honestly I care too much. Over winter break hopefully I can have more time to myself to learn a lot of the important things that I need to become the best that I KNOW I can be. And honestly it would be great if someone could teach me. I am pretty smart and can figure most things by myself but I always am finding myself asking about small little details.

If anyone is willing to help me please let me know.

In theory thats what forums like this are for

Its all about how you COMMUNICATE those things about you that are inherently attractive. Everyone has these aspects to their personality, but it can be hard to figure out how to get the most of them, especially since most PUA material is geared towards a certain PUA "Act" that is designed for statistical results (ie, if you approach 100 females, a certain percentage of them will respond to the generic act, at least for long enough to get laid).

If you're looking for personal instruction there are a lot of places to go to purchase training. The most important thing is to find a trainer who speaks to you and who teaches a method that you're comfortable with, because it enhances your results immensely.

A web search will give you several options to explore, and I humbly welcome you to check out my own site as well at novexmentis.com. Of course even if you have a trainer, resources such as forums like this one are handy tools to use to enhance your success.

Good luck!

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Also, what I noticed, if you don't see each other within a week of meeting, it's less likely to happen at all.

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rAFC and yes, I'm a chick.

I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

I run into problems as I'm talking with a girl so it's kind of hard to not text her while I sit here to wait for a response from someone through a topic. I was hoping for a more personal level of contact like hey there, is this a shit test? no. okay! Like I don't get how freezing a girl out could work. To me I think the girl would lose interest. And during a freeze out do you ignore them until they text you or until you re-initiate the conversation? How long should you freeze someone out for? I've seen guys say freeze out the girl for at least a week. And Then a guy that just posted in this topic saying, So as you can see all of this is a bit confusing and I find a lot of things I read on here contradicting. Therefore, I think learning from one person that has been successful enough would be the most beneficial way to learn. I don't have the kind of money to spend on a trainer. And that's not what I'm looking for, I'm looking for a friend that can show me the ropes so to speak. Also, with all of the contradictory information it may be even more harmful than beneficial to me as an rAFC.

I don't want a guy to teach me EVERYTHING about the game, just general information so that I can by myself learn and sift through information that is false or contradictory to what the basics are. Then after knowing the basics I could then be able to test out things and even create my own material.

the moderated alt.seduction.fast forums have a registry for meeting PUAs in your area. its called PAIR. google it and try it out.

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I think I got the right site. I'm guessing we are not allowed to post links which is why you told me to google it. It seems like a social networking site where basically we register and get together? And for my area? I live in Maryland.

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hey man, you've got a whole lot of good advice, here, just gonna add my 2 cents.

DJ fuji offers a nice technique to let u know where you are in the interaction. Instead of going for a number close, ask the girl, "how do i get hold of you?"
if she is at all weird about giving a phone number, or if she offers you email, facebook, or just says she'll see you around, you know you need to do more work. Dont take it now, tell her you'll get it later.
Now you can start building a connection again, once you think you've done enough, go for it again, " how do i get hold of you?"

another practical technique is to make a SPECIFIC plan. Rather than saying, "let me get your number so we can hang out" you can say something like, "no way! thats cool, I'm also totally into x band, they're playing next week at x bar, im going with friends, you should come." then carry on chatting for however long and get the number when you leave. She'll feel more comfortable commiting to a specific low investment plan, rather than wondering about a million different awkward situations she could have with you in a different setting.

Brad p has a great technique where as soon as you get her number, you call her, while she's standing there. And you train her to answer the phone how you llike, so you tell her to be super excited when she hears its you etc. This breaks down the phone barrier nicely

one more. let her know you're not looking for anything serious. This worked well for me recently. Especially With hotter girls, every dude is in love with them and letting them know you just wanna chill and have fun makes it easier for her to let you into her life.

To be honest though, if you get real investment from her you dont need any of these.

Lot's of great advice. Thanks a lot!

I got the girl, got her into bed on the second date... she was calling and texting non-stop... we saw each other 2 or 3 times a week for 3 weeks then we went on a weekend away together. Amazing romantic weekend, lots of fun but then after the weekend together, she started to pull away. her 25 messages per day turned to 2 and no phone call. 3 days into it, she told me that she had just been very busy at work and couldnt see me until next week (bullshit excuses since i know she's going out w her friends on friday, so clearly if she wanted she could make time one evening this weekend, saturday or even sunday)

I happen to really like this girl and I tried to avoid "gaming" other girls at the same time for the past 3 weeks that i have been hooking up with her...so I ve cut myself a bit from my other options.

What do I do? how do i reel her back in? Any text message example i can use to get her to stop whatever she's doing to meet up. I know if i see her, she'll be mine again guaranteed, she couldnt keep her hands off me.

We always talk about flaking in the context of a girl you haven't gotten yet, but what happens when you got the girl, she was all over you and now she's taking steps backwards... was it too much too soon? is she a bit scared? should i reassure her or should i move back myself and get back on the case of my outside options?!?